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chicago/minnesota...question 

Post#1 » by mikeselectro » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:01 pm

Bulls: Noah, Gray
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Min: C. Smith, Booth

I like this trade for chicago, but I'm not sure how highly minnesota values c. smith
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Post#2 » by the_bruce » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:28 pm

MN does this in an instant.
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Post#3 » by mikeselectro » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:57 pm

ic, than this is my counter

Bulls: Noah, Gray, C. Simmons
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Min: C. Smith, Booth, Carney
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Post#4 » by shrink » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:32 pm

mikeselectro wrote:ic, than this is my counter

Bulls: Noah, Gray, C. Simmons
for
Min: C. Smith, Booth, Carney


You're countering your own offer, because it was accepted?

Just kidding. The new deal if probably fine with MIN too, but many MIN fans are in love with last year's Noah, and haven't seen much of him this year.
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Re: chicago/minnesota...question 

Post#5 » by CellarDoor » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:02 am

So...we trade our only two Cs for a 6'8 PF and booth? And your counter adds in one of the few guys you left us with who could play C some for Rodney Carney...
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Post#6 » by Vindicater » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:09 am

the wolves take the first offer and lau8gh all the way to the bank
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Re: chicago/minnesota...question 

Post#7 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:31 am

I like Carney and Smith to MIN, I like Noah and Gray to MIN, but since both teams are in need of C depth, one is bound to be even thinner at the pivot after this deal. I'd seek a 3rd team who has Cs to spare.

For instance, NJN would give Sean and Swift's expiring for a chance at Mike Miller,... anyone??? :echo: :cricketschirping:

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Post#8 » by 4ho5ive » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:25 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:I like Carney and Smith to MIN, I like Noah and Gray to MIN, but since both teams are in need of C depth, one is bound to be even thinner at the pivot after this deal. I'd seek a 3rd team who has Cs to spare.

For instance, NJN would give Sean and Swift's expiring for a chance at Mike Miller,... anyone??? :echo: :cricketschirping:

Oh well, I gave it a shot! :lol:


Only if we can take Simmons' contract in the deal, but then the contracts wont match so we'll just toss in Jefferson to match salaries. Sweet.

As for the OP deal, I would do the 1st one. I wouldnt do the 2nd.

Counter-Counter offer

Chi sends: Noah, Thabo

Chi gets: Smith, Carney, 2nd
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Post#9 » by BrooklynBulls » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:30 am

Jesus, mike, why are your trades consistently biased toward the non-chicago team?

We can't afford to trade Noah for anybody that's not a young center. Thats plainly reality.
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Post#10 » by 4ho5ive » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:31 am

Shh! im trying to get two very young core pieces for next to nothing.
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Post#11 » by CellarDoor » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:45 am

BrooklynBulls wrote:Jesus, mike, why are your trades consistently biased toward the non-chicago team?

We can't afford to trade Noah for anybody that's not a young center. Thats plainly reality.


I don't think they HAVE to be a young C, just a real C with 3-5 years left in the tank.
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Re: chicago/minnesota...question 

Post#12 » by shrink » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:50 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:I like Carney and Smith to MIN, I like Noah and Gray to MIN, but since both teams are in need of C depth, one is bound to be even thinner at the pivot after this deal. I'd seek a 3rd team who has Cs to spare.

For instance, NJN would give Sean and Swift's expiring for a chance at Mike Miller,... anyone??? :echo: :cricketschirping:

Oh well, I gave it a shot! :lol:


I think including NJN in the deal would help all teams involved.
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Re: chicago/minnesota...question 

Post#13 » by mikeselectro » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:02 am

ecuhus, i think you meant you like Smith and Carney in Chi ?
considering what you said about both teams being thin at center after that trade, I came up with some additional trades for chicago to address this

original trade proposal: Noah, Gray, C. Simmons / C. Smith, Carney, Booth

resulting pf and c rotation
pf: Gooden/T. Thomas/C. Smith
c: Booth/Ruffin

now, additional trade proposals to solve chicagos pf and center rotation
1) Gooden / Joe Smith, Petro
2) Gooden / Joe Smith, Sene
3) Gooden / Joe Smith, Swift (Dec. 15)
4) Gooden / Tim Thomas, D. Jordan
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Post#14 » by mikeselectro » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:10 am

I guess I value chicagos talent less than most people, or I over value the returns, maybe a little of both. Also, i stared at your avatar for close to a minute, and it never got closer

BrooklynBulls wrote:Jesus, mike, why are your trades consistently biased toward the non-chicago team?

We can't afford to trade Noah for anybody that's not a young center. Thats plainly reality.

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