GSW/MIN

[Bimbo_Coles]

Warriors Trade
Corey Maggette
Kellena Azubuike

Wolves Trade
Mike Miller

Wolves get some scoring punch.

Warriors improve their passing and get an expiring.

[bcortell]

Don't see Minny adding Maggette's salary.

[don nelson]

Warriors better off keeping Maggette and Azubuike than trading for a declining Miller.

[don nelson]

Warriors better off keeping Maggette and Azubuike than trading for a declining Miller.

[old rem]

Warriors better off keeping Maggette and Azubuike than trading for a declining Miller.

Yeah...might do Maggette for Miller even just to shorten contract but Azubuike's out shooting Miller by a LOT lately,so, I'm not sure WTF is up.

[shrink]

Declining Miller?

Were you aware Miller was the #1 rebounding guard in the NBA?

Were you aware he is 3rd in the whole NBA in 2-point percentage?

Since Miller is not taking three-point shots, people seem to think he's a failure as a three-point specialist, when the truth is, he's not a specialist at all. While his defense is mediocre except for his size advantage (6' 8"), he can bring the ball up the floor, he can initiate the offense, pass, drive, rebound, and score. He was an alternate for Team USA in Beijing last year.

Lastly, this is the third trade I've read from a GSW poster in the last two days that ignores MIN's financial situation in 2010. A quick look at MIN should show they are going to be well under the salary cap (only Jefferson and Telfair have guaranteed 2010 money), so in this trade, you're asking the Wolves to give up raw cap space for Maggette and Azubuike. It may just be a little extra space under the lux for you, but its space under the cap for MIN, so I don't think they'd want to drop $13 mil on Maggette and Azubuike.

[Vindicater]

There is no way in hell minnesota does this trade

[the_bruce]

hmm no from mn,

[deeney0]

Wolves would need a ton more incentive to take on Mags' salary.

[gswhoops]

Both teams pass IMO. Warriors take a talent hit, Minny loses a boat load of cap space.

[St.Nick]

We're talking about the Mike Miller averaging 9.9ppg, right?
And we are talking about Corey Maggette who is averaging 19.7ppg and Kelenna Azubuike who is averaging 13.1ppg, right?

Minnesota can have all the cap space in the world. they aren't bringing any big time players in there via free agency.

Trading for two guys that can help them long term is a much better solution, especially as they need help at the swing positions.

[Vindicater]

Maggette and Kelenna averaging those numbers for golden state does not impress me

Mike MIller playing an allaround game does however.

No factual evidence to back me up here but I'm guessing if you ask all the GM's in the NBA if they would rather have Corey or MIller, most would take miller

[Devilzsidewalk]

I'd rather have the cap space than any of them and Miller is expiring after next season.

[old rem]

Maggette and Kelenna averaging those numbers for golden state does not impress me

Mike MIller playing an allaround game does however.

No factual evidence to back me up here but I'm guessing if you ask all the GM's in the NBA if they would rather have Corey or MIller, most would take miller

Azubuike is shootng 46.3% from 3...compared to 36.5% for Miller. Miller would not play any SG for GSW, not that speedy. Azu's 13 + is hardly cheap points. While GSW runs + scores...there's 3 guys scoring 19+...obviously taking a lot of shots. GSW has TEN guys who avg 8+ and that's not counting Randolph who now is playing a lot more. Azu isn't getting "volume shooter" points at all. I am not at all inclined to deal both Maggette + Azu, especially for a perimeter guy. GSW has guys with some tough attitude but just a skinny body to back it up. Maggette + Azu both bring strength. Azu is VERY cost effective...so giving him away pretty much cancels the + of a salary dump. When the dust settles and Miller leaves.....GSW gets a few $ to replace this loss of 33ppg scoring. Good luck on that.
Some SGW regulars decided a year ago the young Azubuike was "Horrid" or some such crap; He's proved that to be absurd by playing like a lotto talent but they can't accept those facts. I DO want to "cull the herd" but if Maggette-Crawford-Maggette have no trade value, WTF.....they are currently 60 pt of scoring punch here....so the real issue is a coach distributing minutes and using DEPTH to enhance speed.

Minny? I think Minny is looking to grab an under the radar FA and wants to take a shot. Odds are what they get won't be better but if money stays tight it might be cheaper.

[john2jer]

I don't mind Maggette's game as much as some people, but it would be absolutely horrid with Jefferson's game.

Both teams say no to this deal.

I love how the giant knock on Miller is that his 3pt% is down, while completely ignoring the fact that he has a complete game that's actually showing and performing well right now.

Wolves are in need of a long three who can play good defense, block shots, and distribute the ball while knocking down an open jumper, and attack the basket a little. Maggette can attack the basket...

[don nelson]

Declining Miller?

Were you aware Miller was the #1 rebounding guard in the NBA?

Were you aware he is 3rd in the whole NBA in 2-point percentage?

Since Miller is not taking three-point shots, people seem to think he's a failure as a three-point specialist, when the truth is, he's not a specialist at all. While his defense is mediocre except for his size advantage (6' 8"), he can bring the ball up the floor, he can initiate the offense, pass, drive, rebound, and score. He was an alternate for Team USA in Beijing last year.

Lastly, this is the third trade I've read from a GSW poster in the last two days that ignores MIN's financial situation in 2010. A quick look at MIN should show they are going to be well under the salary cap (only Jefferson and Telfair have guaranteed 2010 money), so in this trade, you're asking the Wolves to give up raw cap space for Maggette and Azubuike. It may just be a little extra space under the lux for you, but its space under the cap for MIN, so I don't think they'd want to drop $13 mil on Maggette and Azubuike.

Golden State is overloaded with wing players and is trying to rebuild around their young core of players that are 19-24 years old. The players the Warriors are interested in moving are Crawford, Maggette and Jackson who are all 28-30 years old. Mike Miller is already 29 and adding an older player is not the direction the team is taking. That is why Golden State is not a good trade option for Mike Miller and neither is this trade proposal.

[old rem]

Maggette and Kelenna averaging those numbers for golden state does not impress me

Mike MIller playing an allaround game does however.

No factual evidence to back me up here but I'm guessing if you ask all the GM's in the NBA if they would rather have Corey or MIller, most would take miller

The Warriors have about 9 guys averaging 8+...and Miller is just a SF/SG...and the Warriors have about 10 guys to fill those roles. Miller is not special as a rebounder and not special on D. He's a generic expiring and I won't pay Azubuike to just expire a guy who's,after all, our #2 scorer. I'd sooner just go with it. Use the personel moves we have available to get more balance,some power game. As it is, Maggette + Azubuike are almost the closest thing we have to a power game.

I don't expect GSW GETS much for Maggette...So if there's nothing to GAIN..why bother? If GSW "Expired" him in this fashion...what's the endgame? We have 2 less productive players. We've shown ourselves to be "soft" in trade deals fickle in free agency,eager to overspend then in a frenzy over paying $1 mill too high....and it becomes a cycle.

I don't expect much, but nothing is not enough.

[john2jer]

Maggette and Kelenna averaging those numbers for golden state does not impress me

Mike MIller playing an allaround game does however.

No factual evidence to back me up here but I'm guessing if you ask all the GM's in the NBA if they would rather have Corey or MIller, most would take miller

The Warriors have about 9 guys averaging 8+...and Miller is just a SF/SG...and the Warriors have about 10 guys to fill those roles. Miller is not special as a rebounder and not special on D.

Miller is the #1 rebounding guard in the league. I'd say that's special.

But either way this trade is bad for both teams. No sense in going back and forth about why the Warriors or the Wolves wouldn't do it, NEITHER team would.