What does Detroit have up its sleeve?
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Dumas has got to be the smartest gm wand the owners have full confidence in him. I'd take him anyday of the week. He's one of the few who knows what he's doing
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CB-Blazer wrote:vege wrote:NBA74 wrote:I think Oberto and Kwame are a nice center combo. Now Detroit has 20 million to pursue Forwards....
THey could sign Villanueva(6.5), David Lee(8.5), Marvin Williams/Marion/Ariza/Milsap(6)
Wrong. The trade just increased the chances of CV resign with Milwaukee and the tittle increased the chances of Ariza coming back to lala land. Millsap will stay in Utah, they said they will keep him no matter what and the J-Smoove trade rumors pretty much say Atlanta wants to keep Marvin. Marion is garbage. David Lee for 8.5m is too much.
Well said.
I... uh... did vege and CB-Blazer just agree on something?
Seriously, this would be like Palestine and Israel agreed to a peace plan.
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plucas wrote:Dumas has got to be the smartest gm.
Your GM is Richard Dumas? Hide your wallets!
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
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I'm not sure Joe has anything written in stone. I suspect this minor deal was simply to accommodate Amir, and create a lil more wiggle room with regards to FA & Trades.
To be honest I don't anticipate Joe being locked into any specific plan. That's how you get stuck over paying; tunnel vision. Instead I think he'll continue to weigh all his options, and then move on what gives us the best combination of value & impact. But I'd be lying if I said I had any clue what that was gonna be.
To be honest I don't anticipate Joe being locked into any specific plan. That's how you get stuck over paying; tunnel vision. Instead I think he'll continue to weigh all his options, and then move on what gives us the best combination of value & impact. But I'd be lying if I said I had any clue what that was gonna be.
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Im sure some team is going to offer Boozer a S&T offer for 15 million a year. A team that has cap room that is.
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boogydown wrote:Im sure some team is going to offer Boozer a S&T offer for 15 million a year. A team that has cap room that is.
I hope that it's not Detroit
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boogydown wrote:Im sure some team is going to offer Boozer a S&T offer for 15 million a year. A team that has cap room that is.
Not a chance.
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No way in hell Boozer gest $15 million/yr. There will only be 4 teams with enough capsapce to give him more than the MLE. Memphis, OKC, Detroit and Utah. Utah won't re-sign him because they want to keep Millsap. Memphis and OKC could sign him, but I don't see either of them throwing most of their money at him when they are trying to build young cores.
That basically leaves Detroit, which is why some Piston fans think it's set in stone that he will sign with Detroit. But if he does, I don't see them overpaying for him. Joe Dumars is the GM that let Ben Wallace go to a division rival, rather than give him a contract he did not deserve. Ben Wallace was the heart of the Pistons. If Dumars wouldn't give the franchise player $15 million, I don't see him giving Carlos Boozer anywhere close to $15 million.
That basically leaves Detroit, which is why some Piston fans think it's set in stone that he will sign with Detroit. But if he does, I don't see them overpaying for him. Joe Dumars is the GM that let Ben Wallace go to a division rival, rather than give him a contract he did not deserve. Ben Wallace was the heart of the Pistons. If Dumars wouldn't give the franchise player $15 million, I don't see him giving Carlos Boozer anywhere close to $15 million.
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I... uh... did vege and CB-Blazer just agree on something?
Seriously, this would be like Palestine and Israel agreed to a peace plan.
Shh, don't tell anyone.
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They're going to trade Rip for some unguarenteed expirings, and in one of the biggest coups in NBA history, they'll sign Kobe Bryant. After that they'll get Milsap or Boozer.
Stuckey
Bryant
Prince
Boozer or Milsap
Kwame
OK I don't know if they'd even have money for 2 FA but hey, made the thread a lot more interesting didn't it?
Stuckey
Bryant
Prince
Boozer or Milsap
Kwame
OK I don't know if they'd even have money for 2 FA but hey, made the thread a lot more interesting didn't it?
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I wonder what Boozer ultimately winds up getting?
Maybe 5 years for 70-75 mill total?
That seems about right to me.
Maybe 5 years for 70-75 mill total?
That seems about right to me.
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vincecarter4pres wrote:I wonder what Boozer ultimately winds up getting?
Maybe 5 years for 70-75 mill total?
That seems about right to me.
He won't get that.
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There's no market for Boozer anywhere near 15 million a year.
I'd say a deal starting at 12 is the best he'd get.
I'd say a deal starting at 12 is the best he'd get.
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RTM wrote:There's no market for Boozer anywhere near 15 million a year.
I'd say a deal starting at 12 is the best he'd get.
I don't even see him getting a deal STARTING at $12 million. That would average out, depending on 10% increases, would be about $14 million.
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HeroicKennedy wrote:RTM wrote:There's no market for Boozer anywhere near 15 million a year.
I'd say a deal starting at 12 is the best he'd get.
I don't even see him getting a deal STARTING at $12 million. That would average out, depending on 10% increases, would be about $14 million.
I assumed he'd get 5% increases, bringing the average to around 13. He won't do better than that.
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I was thinking his salary would increase more each year for some reason, hence the reason I said so much, but come to think of it only players that resign with their own teams get % increases that high.
So, something like 5 years for something between 60 and 65 would seem about right then, I would imagine.
I mean the economy is bad, there isn't a huge market for him and he is often injured, but he is a legitimate 20 and 10 power forward who is only 27/28 this season, so honestly even that is slightly below market value even with all the elements that are going against him, so I can't really see him getting any less.
For that kind of money I am really warming up to him on the Nets more and more.
NJ would have to clear capspace somehow, or do a S&T that gives Utah some pretty good value to take back salary they wouldn't want any part of, but it is still a real possibility.
So, something like 5 years for something between 60 and 65 would seem about right then, I would imagine.
I mean the economy is bad, there isn't a huge market for him and he is often injured, but he is a legitimate 20 and 10 power forward who is only 27/28 this season, so honestly even that is slightly below market value even with all the elements that are going against him, so I can't really see him getting any less.
For that kind of money I am really warming up to him on the Nets more and more.
NJ would have to clear capspace somehow, or do a S&T that gives Utah some pretty good value to take back salary they wouldn't want any part of, but it is still a real possibility.
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Free Agents resigning with their own team can get up to 10.5% raises and if they sign with another team can get a max of 8% raises.
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