Motown-Beantown Trade

[Mich3006]

To Boston: Rip Hamilton, Jason Maxiell, Kwame Brown
To Detroit: Kendrick Perkins, Ray Allen

Celtics: Rondo, Hamilton, Pierce, Garnett, Wallace
Pistons: Stuckey, Allen, Prince, Villanueva, Perkins

What do you think bout this Trade???

[qclakers]

That is so bad for BOS. Wallace is not a replacement for Perk he is a complement to Perk and KG. Ray Allen is every bit as good as Rip(at least close enough to not breakup the big three) and Rips deal is longer than BOS's window which will hurt them down the road. No go from Beantown.

[BDM22]

How about Rip for Perkins, Scalabrine (expiring - waived), Tony Allen (expiring), and a 2011 1st rounder?

Pistons basically salary dump Rip for a solid young C in Perk and a very low 1st. This helps them open up enough money to add a FA next year (how big a FA depends on the final cap figure and other moves). A young core of Stuckey, Gordon, Villanueva, Perkins, and the Vet in Prince is a solid foundation.

Celtics throw just a ridiculous lineup on the floor with Rondo, Rip, Ray, Rasheed, Pierce, and KG. Not sure how they feed all those mouths, but winning a crap-ton of games would surely help. Boston would probably look to sign a veteran big on the cheap to fill some of Perk's void (or re-sign Big Baby).

[Ticket_Stub]

Ray Allen > Rip Hamilton
Kendrick Perkins > Jason Maxiell + Kwame Brown

[He Filled it Up]

I agree that the trade is not perfect from Boston's standpoint, but anyone that claims that Allen is considerably better than Rip is either iggorant or only watched that one game in the Chicago series and tricked themsevles into thinking he's back. If you watched the regular season, you'd know that Ray had an awful season and that throughout all the BS the Pistons went through with Rip and the lineup, he was still better.

[Celts17Pride]

If you watched the regular season, you'd know that Ray had an awful season

Anyone who says Ray Allen had an awful season doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Ray Allen set career highs in FG Pct (.480), FT Pct (.952) and almost 3pt shooting Pct (.409) last season. His career high was (.433) 3pt Pct. Know what you are talking about before you make stupid claims.

[MVP16]

I agree that the trade is not perfect from Boston's standpoint, but anyone that claims that Allen is considerably better than Rip is either iggorant or only watched that one game in the Chicago series and tricked themsevles into thinking he's back. If you watched the regular season, you'd know that Ray had an awful season and that throughout all the BS the Pistons went through with Rip and the lineup, he was still better.

I'll take Allen because his contract expires after this season whereas Hamilton has 4 years left on his contract. Plus, Allen is probably a better fit for the Celtics because the chemistry is already there and he has more range to space the floor which is needed with Rondo's lack of shooting.

I wouldn't do either of the trades for the Celtics. Trade 1 is brutal. Hamilton/Maxiell both have undesirable contracts. Trade 2 is much closer, but it would make us even older and our biggest weakness last year was lack of size off the bench - trading Perkins and having to start Wallace would again create that problem.

[RTM]

Contract wise, Allen is obviously better. But Rip is probably a bit better and has more good years left.

As for the original deal, I think the Pistons would probably do it. It hurts us moving 2 bigs for 1, but Ray gives us nice flexibility going forward and Perkins would be a nice fit. We need his defense and toughness to anchor our otherwise offensive team.

[Krapinsky]

Allen > Rip

Contract.
Chemistry.
Clutch.
Takeover.

[gswhoops]

This is epically bad for Boston.

[NashtyNas]

Torrid for Boston. Horrible. Terrible.