NOH/GSW Peja involved

killacalijatt · Post #1 » by **killacalijatt** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:25 am

Peja
4
Maggatte
Claxton(expiring)ATL pays 80% of his contract, only 20% paid by NOH

NOH saves a around 3 or 4 million this season and saves 6 million next year and help stay out of luxery land, and still adds a 20ppg scorer to help out Paul and West

Warriors take an exttra 5 million for next year but Peja who would fit pretty well and help with the playoff push and if it doesnt work out Peja expires in a couple of seasons anyways plus we dump Maggatte

Paul
Morrison
Maggatte
West
Chandler

Ellis/Curry
Sjax/Morrow
Peja/Morrow
Randolph/Wright
Beans/Turiaf

hornets686 · Post #2 » by **hornets686** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:49 am

who the heck is Morrison on the Hornets?

killacalijatt · Post #3 » by **killacalijatt** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:45 am

Morris Peterson

Ian Kognitow · Post #4 » by **Ian Kognitow** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:49 am

Interesting - I think I like it. Jackson probably plays full time at SF with Curry coming in and Morrow/Belinelli needing minutes, Stojakovic is more per year but significantly less in total than Maggette. Meanwhile, NO needs any talent they can get in a big way - though with SF it may depend on whether Byron Scott still has a strange bias against Julian Wright. I suppose Maggette can play SG over Butler or injured/diminished Peterson.
Yeah, sounds good.

old rem · Post #5 » by **old rem** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:09 am

Yikes....GSW won't even break even on the financial end for another 3 yr..meanwhile gets a guy whose a worse fit,actually loses a bit on D and rebounds..gets a guy with more injuries and no trade market for awhile. Maybe there's a variation on this that could work...but this as pretty dreadful.

Coxy · Post #6 » by **Coxy** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:19 am

Peja 4 Maggs is pretty sideways for us. No thanks.

WarFan · Post #7 » by **WarFan** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:24 am

I'm all over this, but I doubt NOH is.

Ian Kognitow · Post #8 » by **Ian Kognitow** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:32 am

old rem wrote:Yikes....GSW won't even break even on the financial end for another 3 yr..meanwhile gets a guy whose a worse fit,actually loses a bit on D and rebounds..gets a guy with more injuries and no trade market for awhile. Maybe there's a variation on this that could work...but this as pretty dreadful.

--How much trade market value does Maggette have? GS is broadly considered to have stupidly overpaid for him for a contract far too long. Unless a team is far over the salary cap and in luxury tax territory--which the Warriors are not--do you not think owners/management would care more about long-term costs? Maggette's total contract is a very significant $12M or so more than Stojakovic's. Moreover, in GS Stojakovic could be made into a complete specialist rather than a starter that the team really has to depend on. With Jackson the presumable starter anyway, there's no loss in terms of positional versatility, except that Stojakovic can't really play SG. But GS still has more than enough of those.

NashtyNas · Post #9 » by **NashtyNas** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:59 am

Makes much sense, but I bet GS asks for a first or Wright or something.

killacalijatt · Post #10 » by **killacalijatt** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:37 pm

old rem wrote:Yikes....GSW won't even break even on the financial end for another 3 yr..meanwhile gets a guy whose a worse fit,actually loses a bit on D and rebounds..gets a guy with more injuries and no trade market for awhile. Maybe there's a variation on this that could work...but this as pretty dreadful.

Pejas deal expires after the 09/10 season i dont know were you got the next 3 years from its essentially only next year Bud.

killacalijatt · Post #11 » by **killacalijatt** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:39 pm

WarFan wrote:I'm all over this, but I doubt NOH is.

They avoid the luxury tax and still add a valuable player too

Post #12 » by **gswhoops** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:16 pm

If this is what it takes to make sure Chris Paul doesn't end up in Portland or OKC, I'm in.

sammydavis · Post #13 » by **sammydavis** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:21 pm

killacalijatt wrote:
old rem wrote:Yikes....GSW won't even break even on the financial end for another 3 yr..meanwhile gets a guy whose a worse fit,actually loses a bit on D and rebounds..gets a guy with more injuries and no trade market for awhile. Maybe there's a variation on this that could work...but this as pretty dreadful.

Pejas deal expires after the 09/10 season i dont know were you got the next 3 years from its essentially only next year Bud.

No, Peja's deal expires a year later. He's due 15.34mil in '10/'11.

So he gets 30mil in 2 yrs whereas Mags gets 40mil in 4 yrs. If I had to choose I'd bite my tongue and pick Peja. Mags will remain a negative trade value for much longer.

old rem · Post #14 » by **old rem** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:47 pm

Ian Kognitow wrote:
old rem wrote:Yikes....GSW won't even break even on the financial end for another 3 yr..meanwhile gets a guy whose a worse fit,actually loses a bit on D and rebounds..gets a guy with more injuries and no trade market for awhile. Maybe there's a variation on this that could work...but this as pretty dreadful.

--How much trade market value does Maggette have? GS is broadly considered to have stupidly overpaid for him for a contract far too long. Unless a team is far over the salary cap and in luxury tax territory--which the Warriors are not--do you not think owners/management would care more about long-term costs? Maggette's total contract is a very significant $12M or so more than Stojakovic's. Moreover, in GS Stojakovic could be made into a complete specialist rather than a starter that the team really has to depend on. With Jackson the presumable starter anyway, there's no loss in terms of positional versatility, except that Stojakovic can't really play SG. But GS still has more than enough of those.

Uh..How much trade value does PEJA have? He's so high $ that Peja for 2 yr costs as much as Maggette for 3...but Peja is SO one dimension he's not that much use. Anything he can do now..Azubuike does better. Used as a 6th man,Maggette is a big points per minute and one of our better threats to score at the rim. Peja would join Jack as a high volume/low % chucker...while we HAVE at least 4 guys who shoot better from deep. Peja would make M Dunleavy look like a great D guy....he can't cover most SF's...at all. I should say..couldn't since he's older and coming off a major injury so maybe he's worse.

Even as Desperate Salary Dumps go...this one is pretty awful. Makes the Toronto Sack-of-Stiffs look good.

old rem · Post #15 » by **old rem** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:53 pm

sd1306 wrote:Makes much sense, but I bet GS asks for a first or Wright or something.

If it's a 1st..maybe. J Wright is hardly worth crowding the roster. Davidson is probably more useful.
Us having both Peja and Jack ....then Wright as a deadweight would make SF a real zoo.

don nelson · Post #16 » by **don nelson** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:51 pm

old rem wrote:
sd1306 wrote:Makes much sense, but I bet GS asks for a first or Wright or something.

If it's a 1st..maybe. J Wright is hardly worth crowding the roster. Davidson is probably more useful.
Us having both Peja and Jack ....then Wright as a deadweight would make SF a real zoo.

That's why Sam Presti asked for Chandler instead of the frequently injured and defenseless Peja.