Cavaliers receive:
* Kevin Martin
* A. Nocioni
Kings Receive:
* Zydrunas Ilgauskas
* Anthony Parker
* Jawad Williams (Contract not guaranteed this season, so he can be cut)
* 2010 1st round pick (unprotected)
* 2012 1st round pick (top-6 protected)
*** 3 Million Cash + 2011 2nd round pick if they agree to buyout "Z" within 30 days.
Why for each team:
Cleveland: Kevin Martin gives the Cavs a legit sidekick for LeBron James, w/o ruining the current team. Nocioni is a bad contract, but he can play defense, and will be useful over his tenure with the Cavs. The additions give the Cavs a stronger team going forward this year & in the future.
Sacramento: The Kings get rid of Nocioni's horrid contract, and open-up more room for this summer by moving Martin, who has been injured a lot anyway, and who likely wont be needed with the play of Omni & Evans. The extra 1st round picks ensures the Kings more top talent to add to their already strong core. The Additional 2nd rounder can be used on someone they want to develop & wouldn't have taken otherwise, or used as a bargaining chip in another deal. The cash they receive from the Cavaliers pays for a good portion of Z's buyout.
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You should be banned from the trade board.
I'll expand on how laughable your trade is:
His contract is bad but far from "horrid". MLE money (or less) on a declining contract running 2 more years (after this one) for a decent role player isn't the best you could do but calling it horrid is just dumb
So who, pray tell, are the Kings going to sign this summer that is BETTER than Martin? They aren't getting Bosh, Wade, or Lebron. They aren't getting Amare or Joe Johnson. They could try for Boozer but he makes no sense for them at his age (and lack of defense).
Typical heath, not a clue what he's talking about. Casspi is a 3, Evans is a 1, Martin is a 2. Furthermore, Evans is a poor 3pt shooter and Casspi is, at some point, going to come down from his current % (there's no way he continues to shoot high 40s for 3pters)--and there's no telling where that comes down to. Martin IS needed because his shooting spaces the floor and keeps the Kings from becoming 76ers-West.
Bull. Those picks will be bottom 4 in the first round easily. Those are throw-in picks that have little to no value at all. Those are the picks that teams sell every year for cash. If a number of teams are more than willing to sell a pick for straight cash you can bet the asset isn't all that valuable.
2nd round picks hold NO value. Especially when you're talking about 2nd round picks at the very end of the draft.
ROFLS. Yeah, I'm sure that a team says to themselves "let's hold out. If we're lucky we can get them to include the 58th pick in the draft"
Directions to make a heath trade:
Step 1: Find a star on another team who isn't a superstar but is a star caliber player
Step 2: Match salaries using Z's expiring contract + other throw-ins
Step 3: Add in late 1st round picks
Step 4: Add in C-level prospects
Step 5: Clearly state that this deal is only fair to the Cavs if you agree to buy out Z so he can return to the Cavs
Step 6: ....
Step 7: profit
I'll expand on how laughable your trade is:
The Kings get rid of Nocioni's horrid contract
His contract is bad but far from "horrid". MLE money (or less) on a declining contract running 2 more years (after this one) for a decent role player isn't the best you could do but calling it horrid is just dumb
and open-up more room for this summer by moving Martin
So who, pray tell, are the Kings going to sign this summer that is BETTER than Martin? They aren't getting Bosh, Wade, or Lebron. They aren't getting Amare or Joe Johnson. They could try for Boozer but he makes no sense for them at his age (and lack of defense).
and who likely wont be needed with the play of Omni & Evans
Typical heath, not a clue what he's talking about. Casspi is a 3, Evans is a 1, Martin is a 2. Furthermore, Evans is a poor 3pt shooter and Casspi is, at some point, going to come down from his current % (there's no way he continues to shoot high 40s for 3pters)--and there's no telling where that comes down to. Martin IS needed because his shooting spaces the floor and keeps the Kings from becoming 76ers-West.
The extra 1st round picks ensures the Kings more top talent to add to their already strong core.
Bull. Those picks will be bottom 4 in the first round easily. Those are throw-in picks that have little to no value at all. Those are the picks that teams sell every year for cash. If a number of teams are more than willing to sell a pick for straight cash you can bet the asset isn't all that valuable.
The Additional 2nd rounder can be used on someone they want to develop & wouldn't have taken otherwise
2nd round picks hold NO value. Especially when you're talking about 2nd round picks at the very end of the draft.
or used as a bargaining chip in another deal.
ROFLS. Yeah, I'm sure that a team says to themselves "let's hold out. If we're lucky we can get them to include the 58th pick in the draft"
Directions to make a heath trade:
Step 1: Find a star on another team who isn't a superstar but is a star caliber player
Step 2: Match salaries using Z's expiring contract + other throw-ins
Step 3: Add in late 1st round picks
Step 4: Add in C-level prospects
Step 5: Clearly state that this deal is only fair to the Cavs if you agree to buy out Z so he can return to the Cavs
Step 6: ....
Step 7: profit
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I guess that means you do not think it is a good trade.
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Putting protection on the 2nd 1st round pick is just adding insult to rape. Martin and Lebron would be good enough to win, and the kings get expirings and bottom 5 first round picks? Cavs would need to throw in some young talent....alot.
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Nocioni's contract isn't THAT bad. At least it declines.
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No young shot blocker no deal.
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heathmalc wrote:I guess that means you do not think it is a good trade.
Just throw in 4 more unprotected 1sts and you get approval from this King's fan
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Greatest trade ever.
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