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Rumor Indy/Clev 

Post#1 » by pacersrule08 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:43 am

Well since the amare deal doesnt look like its going to happen the cavs are pursuing troy murphy

Cavs get
Troy Murphy

Indy gets
JJ Hickson
Big Z (brought out)

What do u guys think about this trade?

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64724/20100215/source_amare_does_not_want_to_play_in_cleveland/
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64714/20100215/murphy_is_clevelands_plan_b/
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Re: Rumor Indy/Clev 

Post#2 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:54 am

Thanks for the breaking news!
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Re: Rumor Indy/Clev 

Post#3 » by pacersrule08 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:55 am

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Post#4 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:58 am

Haha, I'm just giving you a hard time bro - we've been talking about this trade for about two months now. Cavs fans don't think the Cavs would give up Hickson for Murphy and frankly I don't think they would either. The deal would only happen if the Cavs get desperate enough, I don't see that happening.
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Post#5 » by InBoobieWeTrust » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:59 am

Cavs wouldn't do it.

As of now, Murphy is "Plan C". The deal would likely be Z(buyout)/1st for Murphy.
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Post#6 » by Royal Zephyrus » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:00 am

I don't think the Cavs should have to include Hickson. A straight swap of Expiring contract for Murphy is about as good as I see it getting for Indy.
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Post#7 » by Krapinsky » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:03 am

Here's an Amare tweet from about 30 minutes ago --

"I play very well with Shaq. I adverage more pts last year WITH him an played better D.You guys can stop saying we don't play well together."

Now tell me, does it sound like he doesn't want to go to Cleveland?
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Post#8 » by Royal Zephyrus » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:10 am

Krapinsky wrote:Here's an Amare tweet from about 30 minutes ago --

"I play very well with Shaq. I adverage more pts last year WITH him an played better D.You guys can stop saying we don't play well together."

Now tell me, does it sound like he doesn't want to go to Cleveland?


Yeah I see that ultimately happening. Z/Hickson/Cleveland 1st for Amare. I think it happens tomorrow.
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Post#9 » by TheOUTLAW » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:27 am

if it's not Z for Murphy is really is a bad deal for the Cavs.
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Post#10 » by bcortell » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:17 am

Not giving up JJ to get Murphy.
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Post#11 » by youngcrev » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:20 am

Krapinsky wrote:Here's an Amare tweet from about 30 minutes ago --

"I play very well with Shaq. I adverage more pts last year WITH him an played better D.You guys can stop saying we don't play well together."

Now tell me, does it sound like he doesn't want to go to Cleveland?


Wow, Amare should of went to college...
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Post#12 » by Effigy » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:10 am

Murphy would be such an incredible let down if I'm a Cavs fan. Keeping Hickson does not offset that. Murphy does NOT keep Lebron in CTown.
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Re: Rumor Indy/Clev 

Post#13 » by basketballwacko2 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:18 am

pacersrule08 wrote:Well since the amare deal doesnt look like its going to happen the cavs are pursuing troy murphy

Cavs get
Troy Murphy

Indy gets
JJ Hickson
Big Z (brought out)

What do u guys think about this trade?

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64724/20100215/source_amare_does_not_want_to_play_in_cleveland/
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64714/20100215/murphy_is_clevelands_plan_b/



I think this has been kicked around since last October! I'll take it. Clev. doesn't want to give up Hickson, but if Indiana is gonna trade Murphy they need a PF coming back who can play a little now. I'd also consider Z and #1 rather than Hickson but that makes the Pacers a little thin at PF for the remainder of the season.

Fact is I'd rather have the Sacto Deal that was rumored of Kenny Thomas and Jason Thompson for Murphy, but I doubt that the Kings would really do that! 8-)
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Re: Rumor Indy/Clev 

Post#14 » by basketballwacko2 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:22 am

Bonzi wrote:Murphy would be such an incredible let down if I'm a Cavs fan. Keeping Hickson does not offset that. Murphy does NOT keep Lebron in CTown.



No but winning a title would and the if you add Murphy with his shooting ability and solid rebounding and only lose Hickson I think the Cavs would be a shoe in for the Title. Clearly they would be better physically with Amare or Jamison but if the Cavs can't get those guys Murphy is the best option. And you don't risk much on Murphy because his contract is short, expires in 2011.
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Post#15 » by SamBone » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:22 am

I stil personally think Murphy is the best fit for Clev. Not sure they would want to give JJ but they may have to. I just think he would be much better choice then Amare or Jameson. But what do i know.
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Post#16 » by basketballwacko2 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:25 am

InBoobieWeTrust wrote:Cavs wouldn't do it.

As of now, Murphy is "Plan C". The deal would likely be Z(buyout)/1st for Murphy.


I'd take that. But If I'm the Pacers I might try shopping for a 3rd team to get Z for some assets to the Pacers, Like the Knicks maybe a Jeffries and Chandler for Big Z.
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Post#17 » by PacersDG » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:28 am

I don't see phoenix taking z/jj/1st for amare.

It sounds like murphy has enough interest that he'll get moved to someone, which is awesome for the pacers. I like murphy and he will help whatever team he may go to.
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Post#18 » by old rem » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:29 am

InBoobieWeTrust wrote:Cavs wouldn't do it.

As of now, Murphy is "Plan C". The deal would likely be Z(buyout)/1st for Murphy.


I don't see that having any point for Indy,who has some vested interest in the Cavs NOT getting stronger. By the time they waste $ on Z,any "overpay" of Murphy is cancelled out.
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Post#19 » by old rem » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:35 am

basketballwacko2 wrote:
InBoobieWeTrust wrote:Cavs wouldn't do it.

As of now, Murphy is "Plan C". The deal would likely be Z(buyout)/1st for Murphy.


I'd take that. But If I'm the Pacers I might try shopping for a 3rd team to get Z for some assets to the Pacers, Like the Knicks maybe a Jeffries and Chandler for Big Z.


Uh.......Jeffries sucks. That adds up to a talent reduction and too little $ saved. Paying a guy who shoots and rebounds is better than paying a 3rd stringer. Chandler compensates for JJ's negative value, but it's still a case of trading down and enabling TWO East teams to pursue their high roller agenda's.
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Re: Rumor Indy/Clev 

Post#20 » by basketballwacko2 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:13 am

old rem wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:
InBoobieWeTrust wrote:Cavs wouldn't do it.

As of now, Murphy is "Plan C". The deal would likely be Z(buyout)/1st for Murphy.


I'd take that. But If I'm the Pacers I might try shopping for a 3rd team to get Z for some assets to the Pacers, Like the Knicks maybe a Jeffries and Chandler for Big Z.


Uh.......Jeffries sucks. That adds up to a talent reduction and too little $ saved. Paying a guy who shoots and rebounds is better than paying a 3rd stringer. Chandler compensates for JJ's negative value, but it's still a case of trading down and enabling TWO East teams to pursue their high roller agenda's.



Big Z for Jeffries and Chandler doesn't work on the cap anyhow!

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