OffSeason Free Agent Thread...Let's build a DYNASTY!

Valkyrie · Post #1036 » by **Valkyrie** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:27 pm

HIF wrote: he's not getting more than the Vet min from anyone.

Crazier things have happened

Valkyrie · Post #1037 » by **Valkyrie** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:27 pm

HIF wrote:And Jamison? or are we?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... th_Bobcats

Hes from North Carolina and I recall him saying before he wants to finish his career with the Bobcats

Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #1038 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:27 pm

Valkyrie wrote:
StrengthNHonor wrote:so basically we don't want to fill our huge hole at Center, and would rather get our 4th or 5th wing player on the roster. Redundant......

So you wouldn't want Ray Allen backing up Wade and extending Wade's career?

Wer'e probably just gonna end up starting Joel for the regular season and then put Bosh at C for the playoffs

We don't need to get Ray Allen to do that. Just rest Wade more minutes and look for one of the many free agent wing players. A guy to play SG and sit on the 3pt line is easy to find. Why does it have to be Ray Allen?

I don't know what to say to a guy like you who wants to go small ball forever. If this team had a legitimate Center to play defense and rebound, and even a little scoring liek Camby can do, we are UNSTOPPABLE. It's our biggest weakness. We already have guys like Ray Allen on the roster. Battier and Jones.... and there are FA forwards/guards out there.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1039 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:31 pm

Valkyrie wrote:
Heat fan06 wrote:Who says camby is learning towards Miami?

I think Chris Tomasson said he'd only sign for the 3 million... so we can't get him and Ray

If Camby is really that greedy i'll have a bad feeling about him coming here.

But anyway, we could give Ray the MiniMLE and give Camby the 2.9 Mil$ disabled player exception we get if Miller does the surgery.

Everyone - Rashard Lewis, if he comes here, will come for the Vet Minimum. his own agent practically said so.

Valkyrie · Post #1040 » by **Valkyrie** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:34 pm

StrengthNHonor wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
StrengthNHonor wrote:so basically we don't want to fill our huge hole at Center, and would rather get our 4th or 5th wing player on the roster. Redundant......

So you wouldn't want Ray Allen backing up Wade and extending Wade's career?

Wer'e probably just gonna end up starting Joel for the regular season and then put Bosh at C for the playoffs

We don't need to get Ray Allen to do that. Just rest Wade more minutes and look for one of the many free agent wing players. A guy to play SG and sit on the 3pt line is easy to find. Why does it have to be Ray Allen?

I don't know what to say to a guy like you who wants to go small ball forever. If this team had a legitimate Center to play defense and rebound, and even a little scoring liek Camby can do, we are UNSTOPPABLE. It's our biggest weakness. We already have guys like Ray Allen on the roster. Battier and Jones.... and there are FA forwards/guards out there.

I'm not saying I don't want Camby, but I'm just gonna stick by Riley's decision

Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #1041 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:35 pm

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS - Guards/Forwards

Marquis Daniels
Michael Redd
Chauncey Billups
Carlos Delfino (36% career 3pt shooter)
Gerald Green
Mikael Pietrus
Leandro Barbosa (39% career 3pt shooter)
Rudy Fernandez

i can keep going for a long time. The list of NBA Unrestricted free agents that play Guard/Forward is long. THIS IS NOT HARD TO FIND A GUARD/FORWARD to shoot 3pters and play a little defense.

Now try and find me a Marcus Camby. and consider that we already have Battier, Jones, and Miller on the roster.... but our center is Joel Anthony and Dex Pittman.

it makes no sense. I think Riley and some of you fans are too much in love with "Ray Allen! Hall of Famer!" and not looking at the bigger picture here. I'd like to see this team play with a legitimate Center for once.

Valkyrie · Post #1042 » by **Valkyrie** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:54 pm

I thought Miller was getting surgery and/or retiring?

MartyCONLONNN · Post #1043 » by **MartyCONLONNN** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:39 pm

OT but it's kind of funny what Toronto is doing right now with that $20m offer sheet for Fields

Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33
Kudos to Toronto: Any time you can spend $20 mill on an 11th man to pave the way to spend $36 mill on a 39 year old PG, you have to do it.

Honestly I love that they tried to sabatoge New York a little there. :lol:

LikeABosh · Post #1044 » by **LikeABosh** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:41 pm

I hope new york matches it because then they'll be over-paying for another scrub

diablerouge · Post #1045 » by **diablerouge** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:55 pm

Valkyrie wrote:
StrengthNHonor wrote:so basically we don't want to fill our huge hole at Center, and would rather get our 4th or 5th wing player on the roster. Redundant......

So you wouldn't want Ray Allen backing up Wade and extending Wade's career?

Wer'e probably just gonna end up starting Joel for the regular season and then put Bosh at C for the playoffs

bosh is our center now. permanently, for 38 mins a night. exactly like how kg is boston's center now. look at bosh's draft measurements, he's a 7-footer: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Bosh-1740/

Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #1046 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:04 pm

When Bosh signed with us, he made it clear he wanted to play PF and not Center.

I feel like a broken record. Whatever.

Time4War · Post #1047 » by **Time4War** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:05 pm

diablerouge wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
StrengthNHonor wrote:so basically we don't want to fill our huge hole at Center, and would rather get our 4th or 5th wing player on the roster. Redundant......

So you wouldn't want Ray Allen backing up Wade and extending Wade's career?

Wer'e probably just gonna end up starting Joel for the regular season and then put Bosh at C for the playoffs

bosh is our center now. permanently, for 38 mins a night. exactly like how kg is boston's center now. look at bosh's draft measurements, he's a 7-footer: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Bosh-1740/

Bosh will not last at Center in a 82 game season .. BOOK IT.
Also KG is moving back to PF.

WD · Post #1048 » by WD » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:07 pm

HIF wrote:
Why aren't we talking to Billups?

And Jamison? or are we?

You know Pat Rileys MO, whoever he finally signs, he will spin it as if he was speaking to that player all along. He will never really admit that a player actually turned us/him down. Like another poster said, there are more people/players still wanting to BEAT us than play with us.

My money is still on these guys using us as leverage, hope I'm wrong.

P.S. That BS Doc said about not knowing, that's a Pat Riley move right there.

LikeABosh · Post #1049 » by **LikeABosh** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:14 pm

I think Ray goes to Los Angeles

More money and a larger role

Time4War · Post #1050 » by **Time4War** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:18 pm

LikeABosh wrote:I think Ray goes to Los Angeles

More money and a larger role

They already have a offer on the table for Jamal.

MartyCONLONNN · Post #1051 » by **MartyCONLONNN** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:18 pm

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Celtics are in final discussions on terms of a multi-year deal with Mavericks free agent guard Jason Terry, sources tells Yahoo! Sports.

WOW if this is true there really isn't a better option for Ray than Miami... unless he goes to the Clipps to start. That team would be scary.

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Keep in mind Celtics coach Doc Rivers said he wanted both Ray Allen & Jason Terry in this recent Yahoo! Sports story:

Valkyrie · Post #1052 » by **Valkyrie** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:20 pm

Gonna be weird to see Terry in a Boston jersey if thats true

Mranderson84 · Post #1053 » by **Mranderson84** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:21 pm

A big man should be #1 priority. If we lose out on camby I think Riley should wait for brendan Haywood to get amnestied by the mavs. Riley went after him a few years back and if he is still getting his money from the mavs he could be signed cheap. Get Haywood and Lewis for vet min and wait to use the mini mid level till later on in the offseason when a veteran point might have to take less than market value.

LikeABosh · Post #1054 » by **LikeABosh** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:23 pm

Mranderson84 wrote:A big man should be #1 priority. If we lose out on camby I think Riley should wait for brendan Haywood to get amnestied by the mavs. Riley went after him a few years back and if he is still getting his money from the mavs he could be signed cheap. Get Haywood and Lewis for vet min and wait to use the mini mid level till later on in the offseason when a veteran point might have to take less than market value.

Amnestied players are bid on by teams under the cap. We won't have a chance to snag him because he won't get past waivers

GetMoney · Post #1055 » by **GetMoney** » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:24 pm

wow, now i feel like Ray is going to MIA
even if he doesnt, no chance he stays in BOS if they sign JET