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Beasley's Minutes:
...in his last 12 games leading up to the strained hamstring: 19.8 MIN
...in his 1 game played since returning from the strained hamstring: 20.0 MIN
...in his 4 games played during the month of December: 22.0 MIN
...in his last 12 games leading up to the strained hamstring: 19.8 MIN
...in his 1 game played since returning from the strained hamstring: 20.0 MIN
...in his 4 games played during the month of December: 22.0 MIN
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BFRESH44 wrote:Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeat
Spoelstra indicates Birdman, Wade and Ray Allen all will sit out tonight. Allen has sore knee.
Ray has been our only reliable shooter of late, so it sucks that he's out. Looks like James and Bosh will have to do a lot of heavy lifting, and we'll need them to get us this one because the next two games will be tough.
Looking forward to the Blazers game although on paper it seems like a nightmare matchup:
--Blazers make the most 3s (welp)
--Blazers are the second best ORebing team (double welp and in b4 14 ORebs and kickouts for threes)
--Blazers don't turn the ball over; currently, they are the fifth best at protecting the ball.
I hope we get this one and then have everyone available for Saturday.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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More time for Beas, JJ, and Mason Jr. then? Oh, and Joel too, I guess.

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There will be no excuse for Spo to NOT play Beas for 25+ minutes tonight.

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WD wrote:DWadeno3 - I have no choice but to trust Eric also, and I have given him more credit than I've complained about him(still not a fan), but you are basically proving my concern which goes to my question "why is he STILL in the dog house" for past issues? Who in the funnk want to keep hearing about "what was done before".
I am not arguing AGAINST any coaches decision, none of us has behind the scenes access, well GT3 and a couple of others. I am commenting on what is said in FRONT of the cameras.
Here is my point about Mike. If he can help this team offensively, he should get minutes in every game he's healthy and able to play. His defense is night and day from before.
p.s. I did not read you complete post, just the highlights...Mike has not DEMANDED ANY MINUTES, and by you mentioning Min/Phx - I'd hate for you to be MY coach.....if we resigned him to give him another chance, THEN DAMIT, GIVE HIM another chance..not fair to keep bringing up old sh@t
He's still in the dog house because he has yet to prove to be a consistent and reliable force in this league. It's a shame he hurt his hamstring, because otherwise this discussion wouldn't even take place. My point is and still stands that it shouldn't be a given for him to be in the rotation, as you alluded to. Again, the guy is not some proven great player and prior to getting hurt, he's seen more than enough minutes and, contrary to your belief, his defense wasn't as good as you make it to be. He played with a lot of energy, which is to be expected in limited minutes, but that doesn't mean he always defended well.
As a team defender, I still like Lewis better than Beasley.
But I'll give this a rest, the Beasley crew in here is getting even more ridiculous than in his rookie/2nd year with us.

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I'm done with this, we share a different opinion. You seam to be looking at the individual player, I'm looking at the basketball player
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WD wrote:I'm done with this, we share a different opinion. You seam to be looking at the individual player, I'm looking at the basketball player
That's not the point of discussion here and it seems to be you who's caught up with Beasley's individual talent rather than his contributions to the team. Either way, it's a matter of whether he should be on the court or not and you think he's shown to be so good that he ought to play while I don't. He can play, but we have other options.

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I didn't use the words "so good", I'm tired, going to get some rest, let's remove Mike from this convo.
1. I don't feel Eric knows how to manage talent not named the big three
Now let's insert him
2. His answer for why he didn't play Mike against the lakers IMO was bull sh@t-period
1. I don't feel Eric knows how to manage talent not named the big three
Now let's insert him
2. His answer for why he didn't play Mike against the lakers IMO was bull sh@t-period
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Daaaaaamn we need scoring to beat the Kings (unless we actually play defense), looks like Beas gonna have to drop 30 or so next to Bosh and LBJ. That'd be cool.
Oh ****, these West coach games are now at 10pm.... wwhhhyyyy
Oh ****, these West coach games are now at 10pm.... wwhhhyyyy
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While I'm at it, let me say this about Mikes issues in the past. I believe he would have been a better ball player if he started his career with another team.
IMO he didn't need to come to such a structured system , he looked at Drose and probably thought he should have been treated the same. Fair or unfair and that's my opinion.
Eric has lbj, you know how we know? Cause he relies on him Heavy every game IMO
IMO he didn't need to come to such a structured system , he looked at Drose and probably thought he should have been treated the same. Fair or unfair and that's my opinion.
Eric has lbj, you know how we know? Cause he relies on him Heavy every game IMO
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Beas isn't in the dog house. Spo just doesn't know how to manage his minutes and it's looking like that more and more every game. Lewis is going to have to come out of the rotation for Beas to be a more intricate part of this team.
Last year Lewis started off like this again. He looked good, was in the rotation, then he magically FELL OFF. I expect Spo to do the exact same thing. One thing that we see every year, is our rotations are never set in stone, they will change. He is the best scorer off the bench, you'd have to be a fool not to let him play more down the road. We definitely need him come playoff time too. Shane will always play though, but who knows, if he continues to suck even come playoff time, Beasley will take that spot or Lewis. Spo inserted Miller instead of Battier when he was struggling. One thing about Spo now is he doesn't hesitate with his line up changes come playoff time, unlike 2011.
It's frustrating but just be patient...
Last year Lewis started off like this again. He looked good, was in the rotation, then he magically FELL OFF. I expect Spo to do the exact same thing. One thing that we see every year, is our rotations are never set in stone, they will change. He is the best scorer off the bench, you'd have to be a fool not to let him play more down the road. We definitely need him come playoff time too. Shane will always play though, but who knows, if he continues to suck even come playoff time, Beasley will take that spot or Lewis. Spo inserted Miller instead of Battier when he was struggling. One thing about Spo now is he doesn't hesitate with his line up changes come playoff time, unlike 2011.
It's frustrating but just be patient...
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Greg oden or nah. Lol
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Big game tonight
Not sure if I'll watch, but big game tonight
Not sure if I'll watch, but big game tonight
Stop being so disrespectful.
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I have no doubt Beas drops 20 points tonight, no sweat
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SweetTouch wrote:Big game tonight
Not sure if I'll watch, but big game tonight
Not that big, is you ask me. Portland will be a big game. I wouldn't mind Wade sitting this one but if Birdman is out, we might need Wade.
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If we win this game, I'll paint a picture of the player who plays the best on my stomach with ink made from the legendary giant squid mixed with my own blend of pheromones to attract the neighborhood dogs. We will howl all night.
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Impressive workout for Greg Oden before the game. He’s close.
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Going to be tough for sure without wade bird and Allen. James jones, Battier, and Chalmers will need to hit their threes

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