Pimpwerx wrote:GreenHat wrote:I agree that we SHOULD repeat just like we SHOULD have won in 2011. We have had the best players all three years.
We have the fastest car but a middle of the pack driver. Hopefully he can keep it on the road.
What's wrong with Spo is that he has the best team in the league and they are under-performing.
So are you giving up on Spo being a much better defensive coach than Riley now that you see how different the minutes are between the two rosters or do I have to save this post for the next time you try to convince us that Spo is a better defensive coach than Riley?
And are we ready to admit that having a completely different opinion before and after is the definition of flip flopping?
Or that a grown man should have better control of his emotions?
You have no idea what you're talking about. Spo better defensively than Riley? I don't know. It never crossed my mind. Who ever drew that conclusion? What I have pointed out if how the team improved steadily under Spo, something you try to diminish by crediting Wade far too much. How do you explain the vast and sustained improvement in DRTG under Spo? Hell, the ORTG was going up too, just not as drastically.
You said the improvement from the tank year to Spo's rookie year was because of the new coach imposing his defensive system and that's why we improved so much. You drew that conclusion. How are you a teacher?
With Wade and scrubs, Spo went 43-39 and then 47-35 games in his first two seasons, following the 15-win season.
Yes with a top 3 player in the league he got to the first round of the playoffs. Awesome. With Lebron and scrubs Mike Brown got to the finals and was winning 60+ games multiple years. Spo can't even get 60 wins with Lebron, Wade and Bosh. And Mike Brown isn't even good.
With Wade, Shaq and Zo, Riley went 41-20 and then 44-38. Still with Wade, he went 15-67. He had Wade the same number of games for that 44-38 season, as he did the 15-67 season, so it's not really clear that the injury was the deciding factor in such a precipitous dropoff.
It's not clear? Did you watch the season at all? It's clear to everyone else other than you that we were tanking. Maybe you weren't a fan back when we were that bad but the arena was empty and people couldn't give away their tickets.
And again you are ignoring the other parts. Getting rid of Jwill, Blount and Ricky Davis is going to make your defense better. Playing Haslem, Joel and Marion/JO is going to make your defense better.
Those things had a bigger impact than going from Riley to Spo. Is Spo's impact that much bigger than Riley's?
In any case, it seems to illustrate that Spo saw just as much, if not slightly more success with arguably worse roster. The times when Spo got a roster worth of making a Finals, he's posted comparable win percentages in the regular and postseasons.
So then in your opinion is Spo as good as Riley? I disagree with that.
As for controlling their emotions...LOLOLOLOLOL! Who is the one who exudes anger and discontent with the team and coach? Me? Yeah right. You don't see me sitting around for 2.5 years bitching about something I have no control over and that ultimately means nothing to the team's success. I'm not the one trying to convince myself and everyone else that the winning is an illusion. If you want to bookmark this thread, be my guest. You're gonna embarrass yourself again by doing so. Did you bump the Spo thread from last season, after we won the championship? Do you ever give credit for the successes, or are you just Brian Windworst's RGM account, spouting endless negativity?
Discontent about the team? I just say we are under-performing and we are.
Your discontent was clearly shown when we we lost to Indiana. You said posters on here see things Spo can't and he needed to go. We won the title and you flip flopped to now Spo being a top 3 coach. You played the result like you accuse others of doing but you do it more than anyone you accuse. You blame it on your emotions. You don't see my emotions cause my opinions to swing wildly.
When did I embarrass myself? You're the one who got his Indiana flip flop called out. You're also the one who is always near the first post in those "dumbest post ever" threads when people bring up your Norris Cole big 4 posts after a couple jumpshots.
By the way you have been bitching about posters but isn't that something you have no control about? So yeah I do see you doing that.
Why would I bump the Spo thread? My opinions don't sway in the wind based on my emotions and on the result like you. My views are still similar.
I'm a flip-flopper because I, like you, made misguided and misinformed comments following a tough loss? No. Unlike you, I calm down and think rationally after the sting of the loss subsides, and I can see the big picture. You know what it's a picture of? Rings and banners. Nothing else matters. We got everything we need to repeat and threepeat, and your Debbie Downer act won't change that. We already won. PEACE.
People were saying "we already won" in 2011 when another coach beat us badly with inferior players. You were definitely one of those idiots.
The point is we should be dominating the league on our way to a threepeat right now. We aren't.
If nothing else matters then why do you watch the games? Why post about the games? I'm a paying customer and I am being jipped on what I paid for. The games do matter as a form of entertainment. Under-performing this much is a much lower amount of performance than what they sold to the paying fans.
Even if the only thing that matters is rings then we are already one behind where we should be and this season isn't a certaintity.
As for the whole debbie downer thing, I'm just realistic. We are a better team than this.
Your emotions fuel the narratives that you create. You see what you want to see. You believe what you want to believe. You ascribe meaning when it is not there. You create significance when it is not present.