Official Miami Heat 2014-2015 Season - Regular Season 1.0

gom · Post #621 » by **gom** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:09 am

gom wrote:Have the Heat applied for a disabled player exemption?

Answers his own question:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miam ... story.html

Dupas · Post #622 » by **Dupas** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:53 am

BoshtimusPrime wrote:
Dupas wrote:Im not saying to do blantant tanks like cleve or sixers but you remember why the spurs are the spurs? Because their main guy got down and they decided to shutdown the season. It was a step back and look where they are.

If we manage to get a top 10 pick we're far more likely to draft Antonio Daniels than Tim Duncan. Lottery picks guarantee nothing. I'd rather be mediocre and make a big signing in 2016 than fall apart like the Cavs after LeBron left.

Well..that falling apart got yhe cavs lebeta and love.Picks are valuable

RJM · Post #623 » by **RJM** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:54 am

RE: DPE - I'm not sure if there's anyone out there I'd be interested in signing with it. All of the good ones are gone.

Mars · Post #624 » by **Mars** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:23 am

Nearly everything possible has gone wrong yet HEAT still just 3.5 games out of the 4th seed.

gom · Post #625 » by **gom** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:26 am

RJM wrote:RE: DPE - I'm not sure if there's anyone out there I'd be interested in signing with it. All of the good ones are gone.

Here are some to consider:

Emeka Okafor - if healthy (big IF) (PF/C) (32 years old)
Career: 45.21 WS, 18.21 PER
2nd pick in 2004
6'10" 255 lbs
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Eme ... ummary/320

Andray Blatche (Xinjiang Flying Tigers) - to help in the paint. Probably needs a buy out. (28) PF
49th pick of 2005, career PER is 17.06. WS = 20.06.
6'11" 260 lbs
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/And ... ummary/139

Khem Birch - Bring him up (22 years old) PF
6'10" 220 lbs
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Khe ... mary/24151

Manny Harris - not an elite defender but a scoring option (25) G
undrafted in 2010
6'5" 185 lbs
Leads D-League in ppg
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Man ... mmary/2279

Roscoe Smith - good rebounder (only 23) SF
6'8" 215 lbs
undrafted in 2014
Leads D-League in rpg
Also respectful 20.85 ppg
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Ros ... mmary/9279

Post #626 » by **DefenseWins** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:39 am

Mars wrote:Nearly everything possible has gone wrong yet HEAT still just 3.5 games out of the 4th seed.

when we were 10-12, I thought we can still get 50 wins... just have to go 40-20 the rest of the way. With all the injuries, keeping winning 2 and losing 1, it can happen lol.

a lot of **** will have to go our way tho.

if not we are destined for 6th seed

Seabass777 · Post #627 » by **Seabass777** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:42 pm

gom wrote:
RJM wrote:RE: DPE - I'm not sure if there's anyone out there I'd be interested in signing with it. All of the good ones are gone.

Here are some to consider:

Emeka Okafor - if healthy (big IF) (PF/C) (32 years old)
Career: 45.21 WS, 18.21 PER
2nd pick in 2004
6'10" 255 lbs
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Eme ... ummary/320

Andray Blatche (Xinjiang Flying Tigers) - to help in the paint. Probably needs a buy out. (28) PF
49th pick of 2005, career PER is 17.06. WS = 20.06.
6'11" 260 lbs
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/And ... ummary/139

Khem Birch - Bring him up (22 years old) PF
6'10" 220 lbs
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Khe ... mary/24151

Manny Harris - not an elite defender but a scoring option (25) G
undrafted in 2010
6'5" 185 lbs
Leads D-League in ppg
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Man ... mmary/2279

Roscoe Smith - good rebounder (only 23) SF
6'8" 215 lbs
undrafted in 2014
Leads D-League in rpg
Also respectful 20.85 ppg
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Ros ... mmary/9279

Add Jordan Crawford to that list.

DWadeno3 · Post #628 » by **DWadeno3** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:05 pm

Dupas wrote:
BoshtimusPrime wrote:
Dupas wrote:Im not saying to do blantant tanks like cleve or sixers but you remember why the spurs are the spurs? Because their main guy got down and they decided to shutdown the season. It was a step back and look where they are.

If we manage to get a top 10 pick we're far more likely to draft Antonio Daniels than Tim Duncan. Lottery picks guarantee nothing. I'd rather be mediocre and make a big signing in 2016 than fall apart like the Cavs after LeBron left.

Well..that falling apart got yhe cavs lebeta and love.Picks are valuable

They also needed incredible lottery luck and sucked hard for four years. The only really good player they got out of the draft is Irving since we don't know what'll become of Wiggins yet. The only reason they were able to acquire Love in exchange for Wiggins and Bennett is because the Wolves' hand was forced. LeBron was most likely headed back to repair his image anyways.

Speaking of the Wolves, they've been tanking for years, ever since the Garnett trade to be precise and it hasn't gotten them anywhere other than Love leaving as well. Sure, other factors played a role there too but it doesn't take away from the fact that the draft is a crap shoot. I'd rather be an organization with the drive to be competitive every year than an organization that willingly loses in the hopes of landing a guy that'll save them.

If we strike out in 2016 and Wade has retired by then and Bosh isn't a young man anymore, then sure, we can tank. If both Wade and Bosh suffer long-term injurues in the same season, then we can tank as well. But as long as we have a competitive team, I wanna compete, no matter how little the chances of winning a title are. People forget that we have been one of the unluckiest teams in terms of injuries so far this season and we're still more than in there. It's frustrating at times but it's a hell of a lot better than being a Lakers, Knicks, Sixers or Pistons fan, losing game after game, hoping the draft will save my franchise.

Post #629 » by **GameTime_3** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:29 am

What about trying to get Melo from NY. They could be looking to restart that and Melo and Wade are still close and could form a BIG 3 here.

Melo for Deng, UD(Buyout), Shabazz, Mario

NY gets rid of the big contract and can start new. We get another scorer.

Bosh-Melo-Ennis-Wade-Cole

goodboy · Post #630 » by **goodboy** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:38 am

GameTime_3 wrote:What about trying to get Melo from NY. They could be looking to restart that and Melo and Wade are still close and could form a BIG 3 here.

Melo for Deng, UD(Buyout), Shabazz, Mario

NY gets rid of the big contract and can start new. We get another scorer.

Bosh-Melo-Ennis-Wade-Cole

Would be nice... but doubt Melo is going anywhere, especially with that contract and the fact that he didn't choose a legitimate contender team (bulls, if he joined) and picked the Knicks instead.

Also I think they do have a lot of cap space coming up (2016?) So he probably will stay put.

MMyhre · Post #631 » by **MMyhre** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:10 pm

I would like to do a trade for Isaiah Thomas, underrated offensive player who can score in bunches in a good to great TS%. He has a great contract for his talent as well (7 mil a year) and our point guards kinda suck. I just want some excitement..

Sign5 · Post #632 » by **Sign5** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:16 pm

Riley isn't trading UD.

Post #633 » by **IggieCC** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:18 pm

MMyhre wrote:I would like to do a trade for Isaiah Thomas, underrated offensive player who can score in bunches in a good to great TS%. He has a great contract for his talent as well (7 mil a year) and our point guards kinda suck. I just want some excitement..

That sounds great to me. And how do you suppose tricking Phoenix into giving us Isaiah Thomas for a pile of hot garbage with not-so-great contracts we have?

MMyhre · Post #634 » by **MMyhre** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:21 pm

IggieCC wrote:
MMyhre wrote:I would like to do a trade for Isaiah Thomas, underrated offensive player who can score in bunches in a good to great TS%. He has a great contract for his talent as well (7 mil a year) and our point guards kinda suck. I just want some excitement..

That sounds great to me. And how do you suppose tricking Phoenix into giving us Isaiah Thomas for a pile of hot garbage with not-so-great contracts we have?

Well yeah, that's the problem... we will need someone else to be in the trade to give them a big man, their 3 point guard "strategy" isn't working at all so they should be looking for a trade. They are even smaller than us...

Post #635 » by **IggieCC** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:21 pm

Sign5 wrote:Riley isn't trading UD.

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure nobody wants UD. Same thing with Cole.

We so screwed lol

Post #636 » by **IggieCC** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:25 pm

MMyhre wrote:
IggieCC wrote:
MMyhre wrote:I would like to do a trade for Isaiah Thomas, underrated offensive player who can score in bunches in a good to great TS%. He has a great contract for his talent as well (7 mil a year) and our point guards kinda suck. I just want some excitement..

That sounds great to me. And how do you suppose tricking Phoenix into giving us Isaiah Thomas for a pile of hot garbage with not-so-great contracts we have?

Well yeah, that's the problem... we will need someone else to be in the trade to give them a big man, their 3 point guard "strategy" isn't working at all so they should be looking for a trade. They are even smaller than us...

Gotcha. We'll basically need 2 super idiotic NBA team owners that can be tricked into taking on our hot garbage

MMyhre · Post #637 » by **MMyhre** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:06 pm

Well besides this **** on the internet guy over me, anyone got some ideas on moves like Jagger?

gom · Post #638 » by **gom** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:11 pm

We can dose the ****.

Post #639 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:25 pm

IggieCC wrote:
MMyhre wrote:
IggieCC wrote:That sounds great to me. And how do you suppose tricking Phoenix into giving us Isaiah Thomas for a pile of hot garbage with not-so-great contracts we have?

Well yeah, that's the problem... we will need someone else to be in the trade to give them a big man, their 3 point guard "strategy" isn't working at all so they should be looking for a trade. They are even smaller than us...

Gotcha. We'll basically need 2 super idiotic NBA team owners that can be tricked into taking on our hot garbage

Phoenix actually was trying to sign Deng hard during the off season. Maybe they will take him. Problem still lies with Thomas's contract as it interferes with 2016. We also need to be focusing more on big men with very few little assets we have. Our best bet is still trying to go all out for Monroe, Jennings, and Singler for Deng, Chalmers, Williams, and 2017 1st round pick. The Beauty about this deal is all contracts are off the books in 2016 for both sides and Detroit gets there 1st round pick compensation. By 2017 with our projected 2016 Free Agent over haul lets hope that 2017 pick is nothing but a garbage late round selection.

Projected Lineup after deal

C Greg Monroe-Chris Anderson-Hassan Whiteside
PF Chris Bosh-Justin Hamilton-Udonis Haslem (Josh McRoberts)
SF Kyle Singler-James Ennis
SG Dwyane Wade-Andre Dawkins
PG Brandon Jennings-Norris Cole-Shabazz Napier

On January 15th then we could deal Birdman and Cole for a two guard.

MMyhre · Post #640 » by **MMyhre** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:32 pm

Panda Friend 51 wrote:
IggieCC wrote:
MMyhre wrote:Well yeah, that's the problem... we will need someone else to be in the trade to give them a big man, their 3 point guard "strategy" isn't working at all so they should be looking for a trade. They are even smaller than us...

Gotcha. We'll basically need 2 super idiotic NBA team owners that can be tricked into taking on our hot garbage
Phoenix actually was trying to sign Deng hard during the off season. Maybe they will take him. Problem still lies with Thomas's contract as it interferes with 2016. We also need to be focusing more on big men with very few little assets we have. Our best bet is still trying to go all out for Monroe, Jennings, and Singler for Deng, Chalmers, Williams, and 2017 1st round pick. The Beauty about this deal is all contracts are off the books in 2016 for both sides and Detroit gets there 1st round pick compensation. By 2017 with our projected 2016 Free Agent over haul lets hope that 2017 pick is nothing but a garbage late round selection.

Okay so you talk about big men, then want a trade for the awful Brandon Jennings, Monroe who plays zero defense and isn't that good offensively to make up for it either, and the below average Kyle Singler? I just don't see why you would want that.