HIF wrote:DayofMourning wrote:HIF wrote:
Remind me how many championships that Durant has won?
The Heat way would be to trade for Durant now that he has proven to be great.
What does Durant's championship count have to do with his ability as a player? Lebron had to join two all stars and get a great group of talent surrounding him before he won one. One player doesn't win a championship, teams do. You know that, you're just being stubborn and trying to find ways to tip toe around the obvious.
Cherry picking talent from another team doesn't equate to a better strategy than building a team through the draft. The Heat had to account for the greatest offseason haul in NBA history in order to win championships. That's such a rare feat, and I doubt it will be done again any time soon. However, the key to it all was because of their tank worthy acquisition, Dwyane Wade.
Not quite sure why you're getting so uptight.
You want to tank because you think it's the way to win a championship and you are happy to pay to watch a team that is trying to lose for however many number of years it takes. I don't.
I'm not tip toeing the obvious I'm disagreeing fundamentally with you.
Tanking is wrong. As is your belief that it will make your team a "winner". If we tank we get maybe the 8th pick - yet you seem to think that's more likely to be a Durant than a nothing. You do realise that my suggestion of Oden was in direct relation to Durant don't you? Oden was seen as the best pick and if we had the choice this season between Rookie Oden and Rookie Durant we would pick Rookie Oden. Furthermore I'm suggesting that if we somehow lucked into the best player of the last 10 years (as Durant is) which is so extremely unlikely that still doesn't win us a championship. Oklahoma not only have Durant but they have Westbrook and several other fantastic players and they have won ZERO championships.
Winning is about management, trading and good luck. That is proven whereas your tanking idea has proven to win nothing.
And then you insist that tanking and drafting is the way to win. Heat, Spurs, Lakers, Celtics show it's not.
But whatever where we disagree fundamentally is in the wrongness of tanking.
You're not going to change my opinion. I'm not going to change yours. Just accept that other people have a different view than you and you'll enjoy the forum more without needing to repeat the same thing ad nauseum.
Why are you getting so uptight? I'm merely breaking down the fallacies in your point of view.
The easy answer to tanking is Beasley. If you tank, you get Beasley. Beasley, Beasley, Beasley. Ad nauseum.
You used Beasley, so I used Durant. But since I used Durant as an example, then I expect every player drafted at any position due to tanking to be Durant level. That's what you are inferring. That's what you read out of my comments. That's why I feel the need to debunk your opinion. To show how biased you are in your beliefs. You have no issue having a strong opinion of others when you post, but have put up your defenses and become surprised that someone would take the time to offer up a detailed response to a poor point of view of yours. Welcome to the boards HIF. You've been christened.
Anyway, you're free to have your opinion. I just felt like having a go at you. No hard feelings.