Let's Help Pat Fill Out the Heat Roster - UPDATED

[Hallstar]

I hope it is Beasley because both players have the same issues. Both are not great on defense and are consider knuckle heads at times. There is something to be said about doing with the one you know and the one that knows your system when there is not a lot of time left in the season.

There's also something to be said about going with the one that's 6'11

Beasley is 6'10 and is a better three point shooter with better handles. Who can even play the 3, if they don't mind the defense.

Beasley is 6'8 on a good day.

If he was 6'10 there would have been no debate about his position

[Flash4thewin]

There's also something to be said about going with the one that's 6'11

Beasley is 6'10 and is a better three point shooter with better handles. Who can even play the 3, if they don't mind the defense.

Beasley is 6'8 on a good day.

If he was 6'10 there would have been no debate about his position

Beasley is 6'10 with shoes, you realize UD is like 6'5-6'6 yet people dont make a fuss about it.

[Hallstar]

Beasley is 6'10 and is a better three point shooter with better handles. Who can even play the 3, if they don't mind the defense.

Beasley is 6'8 on a good day.

If he was 6'10 there would have been no debate about his position

Beasley is 6'10 with shoes, you realize UD is like 6'5-6'6 yet people dont make a fuss about it.

Beasley is NOT 6''10 in shoes. Shoes don't add 3 inches and he doesn't play big, what's the argument?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mic ... asley-605/

[radikalBaller]

Beasley is not 6-10. He is shorter than Lebron. Beasley is 6-7 at most and plays small, he cannot guard the PF position.

[smartcane]

Beasley is 6'8 on a good day.

If he was 6'10 there would have been no debate about his position

Beasley is 6'10 with shoes, you realize UD is like 6'5-6'6 yet people dont make a fuss about it.

Beasley is NOT 6''10 in shoes. Shoes don't add 3 inches and he doesn't play big, what's the argument?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mic ... asley-605/

You do realize that when those measurements were taken he was 19 years old. Meaning he could have easily grown 1 -2 inches since coming into the league. Even if he didn't he is at least 6'8 or 6'9 in shoes and Blatche is 6'11" in shoes. I really don't see why that is an issue especially because Beasley has a 7'0 wing span. Also the reason he didn't have a position coming into the league was because of his style of play and physical strength. He plays like a SF but isn't quick enough to guard SF and he isn't strong enough to guard PF.

[Hallstar]

Beasley is 6'10 with shoes, you realize UD is like 6'5-6'6 yet people dont make a fuss about it.

Beasley is NOT 6''10 in shoes. Shoes don't add 3 inches and he doesn't play big, what's the argument?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mic ... asley-605/

You do realize that when those measurements were taken he was 19 years old. Meaning he could have easily grown 1 -2 inches since coming into the league. Even if he didn't he is at least 6'8 or 6'9 in shoes and Blatche is 6'11" in shoes. I really don't see why that is an issue especially because Beasley has a 7'0 wing span. Also the reason he didn't have a position coming into the league was because of his style of play and physical strength. He plays like a SF but isn't quick enough to guard SF and he isn't strong enough to guard PF.

There is nothing to indicate he got bigger and the bold is still true. If anything he lost weight since his 1st 2 years when the Wolves tried to convert him to a fulltime SF. Last time we saw him he was smaller than Bron, Battier and Shard, so why should we bring him in as a PF over someone who has been a PF with the size to play the position their entire career. That's all I'm saying

[DefenseWins]

We need a big so bad... lets be real about our injury luck

we will be screwed in the middle

someone who can play with C/PF... thats Blatche but he actually sucks on defense...

[gom]

I made a search of D-League players who can play PF, hit 3 Pt shots at 35% or better, can finish at rim, 6 rbds or more per game, 6'8" or taller:

David Wear (Reno)
Grant Jarrett (owned by Jazz so scratch him off)
Omari Johnson (Maine)
Eric Griffin (Tex - more of a SF/Guard type like Kyle Anderson, tall and can pass, intriguing, remember he played for us in 2013-4 summer league?)
Quincy Miller (10 day contract with Detroit)

If we cannot get Quincy Miller, we should look at David Wear, Omari Johnson, or Eric Griffin.

[gom]

David Wear is 24 years old, 6'10", 225 lbs

In 32 games for Reno, average of 28 minutes played, he is 50% in shooting (6/12), 3 point shooting (2.7/6.5) for 42%. Free throws (1.6/2 for 81% (low but it's Reno)), 1.6 Turnovers, 2.4 PF, 1.7 ORB, 5.2 DRB, 6.9 RPG, 2.1 APG, 0.8 Steals per game, 16.5 points per game.

Omari Johnson is 25 years old, 6'9", 220 lbs

In 34 games for Maine, average of 25 minutes played, he is 43% in shooting (5.4/12.6), 3 point shooitng (2.6/7.1) for 36%. Free throws (1/1.5 for 65%), 1.1 TOV, 2.1 PF, 1.7 ORB, 4.6 DRB, 6.3 RPG, 1.1 APG, 0.6 Steals, 14.3 PPG

Quincy Miller is 22 years old, 6'10", 220 lbs, in 15 games in Reno, 29 minutes per game, he has 51% shooting (8.3/16.3), 2.1 3 pts in 6.1 attempts for 35%, Free throws 6.6/7.4 (higher because he hits the paint more) for 89%, 1.8 Turnovers, 4.3 PF, 2.3 ORB, 5.3 DRB, 7.6 Rbd per game, 1.9 Assists, 1.6 steals, 3.6 blocks per game, 25.3 points per game

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Quincy Miller is the guy.
If not him, we should get David Wear or Eric Griffin. Eric is a very tall GF and may be able to help at the PF.

[Temuhjan]

Quincy Miller is 22 years old, 6'10", 220 lbs, in 15 games in Reno, 29 minutes per game, he has 51% shooting (8.3/16.3), 2.1 3 pts in 6.1 attempts for 35%, Free throws 6.6/7.4 (higher because he hits the paint more) for 89%, 1.8 Turnovers, 4.3 PF, 2.3 ORB, 5.3 DRB, 7.6 Rbd per game, 1.9 Assists, 1.6 steals, 3.6 blocks per game, 25.3 points per game

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Quincy Miller is the guy.
If not him, we should get David Wear or Eric Griffin. Eric is a very tall GF and may be able to help at the PF.

Thanks for the leg work. I like Quincy Miller. When I looked up his stats, I found he was a meaningful bench player during his time in Denver. However, Detroit has beaten us to sign him.

[gom]

Quincy Miller is 22 years old, 6'10", 220 lbs, in 15 games in Reno, 29 minutes per game, he has 51% shooting (8.3/16.3), 2.1 3 pts in 6.1 attempts for 35%, Free throws 6.6/7.4 (higher because he hits the paint more) for 89%, 1.8 Turnovers, 4.3 PF, 2.3 ORB, 5.3 DRB, 7.6 Rbd per game, 1.9 Assists, 1.6 steals, 3.6 blocks per game, 25.3 points per game

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Quincy Miller is the guy.
If not him, we should get David Wear or Eric Griffin. Eric is a very tall GF and may be able to help at the PF.

Thanks for the leg work. I like Quincy Miller. When I looked up his stats, I found he was a meaningful bench player during his time in Denver. However, Detroit has beaten us to sign him.

I'm hoping that somehow he slips through their fingers, but SVG is no fool. Miller was in Sacramento before the all-star break, but our roster was full.

I'd honestly be happy with giving David Wear or Eric Griffin a chance too. One reason is that if we extend a contract with a team option (like TJ's) and it works out, we'll have bird rights at the end of next year. That's an easy way to assemble assets that slip through the cracks.

There is no shame in finding players in the D-League who were undrafted or second round picks and needed time to develop. Goran Dragić was a second round draft pick.

[Temuhjan]

I'm hoping that somehow Quincy Miller slips through their fingers, but SVG is no fool. Miller was in Sacramento before the all-star break, but our roster was full.

I'd honestly be happy with giving David Wear or Eric Griffin a chance too. One reason is that if we extend a contract with a team option (like TJ's) and it works out, we'll have bird rights at the end of next year. That's an easy way to assemble assets that slip through the cracks.

There is no shame in finding players in the D-League who were undrafted or second round picks and needed time to develop. Goran Dragić was a second round draft pick.

We so happened to pick up a former second rounder playing the D-League a few months ago. We gave him a chance and he is a top 10 Center now. His name is Hassan Whiteside.

[gom]

I'm hoping that somehow Quincy Miller slips through their fingers, but SVG is no fool. Miller was in Sacramento before the all-star break, but our roster was full.

I'd honestly be happy with giving David Wear or Eric Griffin a chance too. One reason is that if we extend a contract with a team option (like TJ's) and it works out, we'll have bird rights at the end of next year. That's an easy way to assemble assets that slip through the cracks.

There is no shame in finding players in the D-League who were undrafted or second round picks and needed time to develop. Goran Dragić was a second round draft pick.

Hassan Whiteside was a second round pick. He paid his dues in the D-League. We happened to pick him up a few months ago, gave him a chance and he is a top 10 Center now.

Yes. Another great example. The league is full of them. It all goes back to the inaccuracy of scouting and how hard it is to judge how talent develops.

http://grantland.com/features/nba-draft ... pick-1995/

A lot of time players can be much better with good coaching, opportunity, and confidence.

[ndnow]

I honestly think LIn at a low price is a good pick up for our bench. With Bosh and Whiteside, Jeremy is a solid pick and roll guard who could run the offense fairly well as a third guard.

[cyclix]

I honestly think LIn at a low price is a good pick up for our bench. With Bosh and Whiteside, Jeremy is a solid pick and roll guard who could run the offense fairly well as a third guard.

How many point guards do you want on the team?

[Manili84]

What about Victor Claver, who was playing for the Trailblazers. Good backup player for the SF position IMO. He has been waived by the Nuggets.

6-9 SF/PF position, runs well the floor, good inside and outside defender, very athletic, high basketball IQ. He is kind of a team player and has a lot of experience as he plays for the Spanish National Team every summer.

Maybe could be good for addtion for the Heat's bench. Maybe we can try him with a 10-day contract.

[gom]

What about Victor Claver, who was playing for the Trailblazers. Good backup player for the SF position IMO. He has been waived by the Nuggets.

6-9 SF/PF position, runs well the floor, good inside and outside defender, very athletic, high basketball IQ. He is kind of a team player and has a lot of experience as he plays for the Spanish National Team every summer.

Maybe could be good for addition for the Heat's bench. Maybe we can try him with a 10-day contract.

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Vic ... mmary/1628

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index ... rward.html

Judging from his shot chart, he doesn't seem to stretch the floor. I'd rather have Miller or Wear to be honest. He does know how to be champion though and that's a big deal.

[Manili84]

What about Victor Claver, who was playing for the Trailblazers. Good backup player for the SF position IMO. He has been waived by the Nuggets.

6-9 SF/PF position, runs well the floor, good inside and outside defender, very athletic, high basketball IQ. He is kind of a team player and has a lot of experience as he plays for the Spanish National Team every summer.

Maybe could be good for addition for the Heat's bench. Maybe we can try him with a 10-day contract.

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Vic ... mmary/1628

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index ... rward.html

Judging from his shot chart, he doesn't seem to stretch the floor. I'd rather have Miller or Wear to be honest. He does know how to be champion though and that's a big deal.

He's a 3 or a strech 4 who can shoot mid range jumpers and attack the basket. He es a good rebounder and a very smart player. I really like the way he plays. I think the guy just needs a chance to show it. Sttots never trusted him.

[gom]

So I just learned that if I edit the poll options, they reset the results. Sorry everyone. I thought I knew what I was doing...

[gom]

Philly smackdown on the Nets: Just claimed Thomas Robinson after he had worked out all the details with Brooklyn. Robinson has had a fun career of musical chairs:


Jun 28, 2012 - The Sacramento Kings selected Thomas Robinson in Round 1 with Pick 5 in the 2012 NBA Draft.
Jul 9, 2012 - Thomas Robinson signed a multi-year contract with the Sacramento Kings.
Feb 21, 2013 - Thomas Robinson was acquired by the Houston Rockets from the Sacramento Kings in a trade.
Jul 10, 2013 - Thomas Robinson was acquired by the Portland Trail Blazers from the Houston Rockets in a trade.
Sep 30, 2013 - The Portland Trail Blazers exercised their Team Option to extend the contract of Thomas Robinson.
Feb 19, 2015 - Thomas Robinson was acquired by the Denver Nuggets from the Portland Trail Blazers in a trade.
Feb 22, 2015 - The Denver Nuggets placed the contract of Thomas Robinson on waivers.
Feb 22, 2015 - Thomas Robinson negotiates with Brooklyn Nets to sign after waivers.
Feb 23, 2015 - Philadelphia 76ers claim him off of waivers.