Offical Heat off-season, getting ready to beast in 2015-2016

[MartyCONLONNN]

If possible, I'd wait to trade McRoberts until the deadline or next offseason.

There's always going to be a solid market for McRoberts. He's on the cheap for the next 2 seasons and is a really good/young rotation piece.. we definitely won't trade him unless it's a deal we really feel is right.

[DefenseWins]

We need Beasley back if the McBob trade happens. And we need Beasley in the room in 2016 with Riley & KD

Durant tho might not even be a free agent in 2016.... Dude can get an additional 40mil by signing a 1 year deal instead of going for a 5 year contract in 2016

[MartyCONLONNN]

well he'd have to be a free agent to sign that one year deal technically, no? Either way I for one think Durant is a serious pipe dream but I guess it all comes down to if he ultimately decides he may want to play somewhere else regardless.

[greg4012]

I'd be really upset if we ship McBob off. He's more than just a backup big. He helps us have a 3-man frontcourt rotation that can account for all 96 of the minutes available. He helps us be able to play small-ball without actually being small (both he and Bosh could do some switching onto smaller players in a pinch). He is one of the best playmaking and passing bigs in the league. He is a perfect complement to Dragic's game (both in pick and pop and in transition). He is a player that makes ball movement happen on offense and is gritty with an attitude on defense.

F*ck this is bugging me

[dgonz424]

Speaking of Beasley, look at who I found at 2:41... https://youtu.be/841U5P4Qytg?t=2m41s

[JWG324]

If you look at our guaranteed contracts (and potentially guaranteed, i.e Wade/Dragic) next year we barely have enough, if at all, to sign Whiteside to the max. It's easy to see why we'd opt to dump Mcroberts. It'll be a big blow to our bench though...

[Seabass777]

Speaking of Beasley, look at who I found at 2:41... https://youtu.be/841U5P4Qytg?t=2m41s

Whitside lol.

[JWG324]

Can't we just trade Mcroberts next offseason? Why would it have to be now?

[DefenseWins]

well he'd have to be a free agent to sign that one year deal technically, no? Either way I for one think Durant is a serious pipe dream but I guess it all comes down to if he ultimately decides he may want to play somewhere else regardless.

I wouldnt feel very confident signing him for 1 year. What if its a bad year? Or some team tries to swoop in, we arent the only option all the time

Westbrook is a free agent in 2017, I think he stays in OKC another year

[DefenseWins]

Can't we just trade Mcroberts next offseason? Why would it have to be now?

Its been lame how we got McBob and trying to trade him ever since. Its not a good look honestly. Especially that we sold him on the winning now and we didnt even make the playoffs

Sure he got hurt but I would give another chance and atleast show case what he can do in a full year

His skill set is something this team needs, our bench would like him, unless they just want to fill out bench with 1 year or less contracts...

[QUIZ]

Can't we just trade Mcroberts next offseason? Why would it have to be now?

To save money from the insane repeater tax. Depending on how things work out our total payroll including taxes may be larger than any of our big 3 pay rolls.

We're looking at $2.50 for every dollar over the luxury tax line for the first $5mill $2.75 for every dollar after that and the more over we get the tax will continue to incrementally increase. The repeater tax is an absolute bitch.

[JWG324]

Idk, i don't buy Ethan's report. I think he's just assuming because of past rumors, injuries, reporting to camp out of shape, our salary cap situation, and us being interested in players in his position. Imo it's pretty obvious Mcrobert's versatility is needed off the bench and we're much better off dumping Bird's contract instead. And we could easily trade him next offseason to clear up space, i don't understand why we'd do it now when we desperately need help from our second unit.

[DefenseWins]

Lol we **** up signing McBob in the first place for that long contract... We should have picked someone else

It was another panic move trying to please Lebron and Lebron didnt even say he wanted McBob or approved of it

No we tryna save money, ah well just PLEASE SHIP OFF MARIO BACK TO ALASKA!!!

[JWG324]

Can't we just trade Mcroberts next offseason? Why would it have to be now?

To save money from the insane repeater tax. Depending on how things work out our total payroll including taxes may be larger than any of our big 3 pay rolls.

We're looking at $2.50 for every dollar over the luxury tax line for the first $5mill $2.75 for every dollar after that and the more over we get the tax will continue to incrementally increase. The repeater tax is an absolute bitch.

We'll yea, but that money could be shed by dumping Bird and Chalmers. It shouldn't come from a player who would actually be useful.

[QUIZ]

Can't we just trade Mcroberts next offseason? Why would it have to be now?

To save money from the insane repeater tax. Depending on how things work out our total payroll including taxes may be larger than any of our big 3 pay rolls.

We're looking at $2.50 for every dollar over the luxury tax line for the first $5mill $2.75 for every dollar after that and the more over we get the tax will continue to incrementally increase. The repeater tax is an absolute bitch.

We'll yea, but that money could be shed by dumping Bird and Chalmers. It shouldn't come from a player who would actually be useful.

Bird and Rio are expirings, dumping McBob would have salary cap implications that extend beyond just this season.

[greg4012]

To save money from the insane repeater tax. Depending on how things work out our total payroll including taxes may be larger than any of our big 3 pay rolls.

We're looking at $2.50 for every dollar over the luxury tax line for the first $5mill $2.75 for every dollar after that and the more over we get the tax will continue to incrementally increase. The repeater tax is an absolute bitch.

We'll yea, but that money could be shed by dumping Bird and Chalmers. It shouldn't come from a player who would actually be useful.

Bird and Rio are expirings, dumping McBob would have salary cap implications that extend beyond just this season.

It makes sense and I fear it happens. But I think it's so short term thinking and not necessary. McBob will be a better value contract next offseason than any other role player we can hope to get next offseason. If we are trotting out only vet min guys outside of our starting 5, then we're in bad shape anyways.

JWG324 made a great thread breaking down salary cap scenarios here: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1395923#start_here

If the need is to get under the lux tax, then why not aim for Scenario 6, except without exercising the mini-MLE

Scenario 6
Dragic ($16) / Napier ($1.3)
Wade ($16) / Winslow ($2) / TJ ($850k)/ Richardson (850k)
Deng ($10.1) / Dunleavy (3.3) / Ennis ($850k)
Bosh ($22.2) / Mcroberts ($5.5)/ Boozer ($1.2)
Whiteside ($1) / Anthony ($1.2)/ UD ($2.8)

Salary: ~$83.95 million

We'd be 2.95 million over the luxury tax. Using the repeater rate we'd pay 7.4 million in taxes for a total team salary of 91.35 million.

That would put us just under the luxury tax at $80.65

Unless I'm missing something or misinterepreted something?

[SCHeat]

To save money from the insane repeater tax. Depending on how things work out our total payroll including taxes may be larger than any of our big 3 pay rolls.

We're looking at $2.50 for every dollar over the luxury tax line for the first $5mill $2.75 for every dollar after that and the more over we get the tax will continue to incrementally increase. The repeater tax is an absolute bitch.

We'll yea, but that money could be shed by dumping Bird and Chalmers. It shouldn't come from a player who would actually be useful.

Bird and Rio are expirings, dumping McBob would have salary cap implications that extend beyond just this season.

You can always trade him next offseason AFTER his value has gone up and AFTER the cap has gone up making him more of a bargain.

If we trade anyone it should be Rio, then Birdman because they are more replacable

[JWG324]

To save money from the insane repeater tax. Depending on how things work out our total payroll including taxes may be larger than any of our big 3 pay rolls.

We're looking at $2.50 for every dollar over the luxury tax line for the first $5mill $2.75 for every dollar after that and the more over we get the tax will continue to incrementally increase. The repeater tax is an absolute bitch.

We'll yea, but that money could be shed by dumping Bird and Chalmers. It shouldn't come from a player who would actually be useful.

Bird and Rio are expirings, dumping McBob would have salary cap implications that extend beyond just this season.

I understand Mcroberts would help with the luxury tax situation and i also understand that trading him would help in signing Whiteside in 2016. What i'm saying is we're better off shedding Chalmers and Birdman now to help with this year's luxury tax, keep Mcrobert's and pay a little of the tax, then trade him next summer to help sign Whiteside.

[JWG324]

We'll yea, but that money could be shed by dumping Bird and Chalmers. It shouldn't come from a player who would actually be useful.

Bird and Rio are expirings, dumping McBob would have salary cap implications that extend beyond just this season.

You can always trade him next offseason AFTER his value has gone up and AFTER the cap has gone up making him more of a bargain.

If we trade anyone it should be Rio, then Birdman because they are more replacable

Yup, that's exactly what i'm thinking.

[UD4MVP]

McBob has much more trade value next offseason, but I guess he might be less expensive to replace this offseason? Boozer and Amare are probably there for the minimum