Where does Chris Bosh rank among NBA PFs?

Chalm Down · Post #21 » by **Chalm Down** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 2:15 am

contract wrote:
HeatWillRise wrote:
contract wrote:I figured "top 10" would win ... maybe "top 8".

Only in your case

Actually I'm the "top 15" vote.

Chalm Down · Post #22 » by **Chalm Down** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 2:19 am

I think that if you were to ask every fanbase in the league if they would trade their current starting power forward for Bosh (straight up, ignoring contracts) for next season, only the Pelicans and Clippers would give you a definitive no.

goodboy · Post #23 » by **goodboy** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 2:22 am

Chalm Down wrote:I think that if you were to ask every fanbase in the league if they would trade their current starting power forward for Bosh (straight up, ignoring contracts) for next season, only the Pelicans and Clippers would give you a definitive no.

Exatcly

contract · Post #24 » by **contract** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 2:36 am

Chalm Down wrote:
contract wrote:
HeatWillRise wrote:Only in your case

Actually I'm the "top 15" vote.

What can I say? I think PFs need to be able to rebound.

Chalm Down · Post #25 » by **Chalm Down** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 3:02 am

contract wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:
contract wrote:Actually I'm the "top 15" vote.

What can I say? I think PFs need to be able to rebound.

Fair enough, everyone is allowed their opinion. Rebounding is one of his weaknesses, but I think his offensive/defensive versatility, shooting, and high bbiq still make him one of the best power forwards in the league. He is our best player (by a slight margin) imo.

krikor · Post #26 » by **krikor** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:36 am

On this board we seriously overrate our players, then no surprise we read Spoelstra bashing.

contract · Post #27 » by **contract** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:45 am

krikor wrote:On this board we seriously overrate our players, then no surprise we read Spoelstra bashing.

There's some truth there.

But Spo sucks.

twix2500 · Post #28 » by **twix2500** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:55 pm

The only PF i would take over Bosh is LaMarcus and Anthony Davis. Bosh is a better offensive player than every PF except for LaMarcus. And you guys forget, Bosh average 21 pts with the worse point guard play in the league. This is not even counting the leadership.

TroubleS0me · Post #29 » by **TroubleS0me** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 12:45 am

Top 5

AD
BG
LMA
Millysap
Bosh

u can make case for 1 of these guys too, depending on what u value more

Monroe
ZBO
D.Green
Love
Favors

dgonz424 · Post #30 » by **dgonz424** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 7:27 am

twix2500 wrote:The only PF i would take over Bosh is LaMarcus and Anthony Davis. Bosh is a better offensive player than every PF except for LaMarcus. And you guys forget, Bosh average 21 pts with the worse point guard play in the league. This is not even counting the leadership.

I'd probably take Griffin over Bosh too, but you're totally right. I can't wait to watch Dragic and Bosh running the pick and roll. Dragic terrorized defenses with Frye and the Suns. If we can get more 3 point shooters and Bosh at 100%, watch out.

theFRANCHISE · Post #31 » by **theFRANCHISE** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 12:27 am

1. Anthony Davis
2. Blake Griffin
3. Aldridge
4. Duncan
5. Dirk
6. Z-Bo
7. Bosh
8. Love
9. Pau Gasol
10. Ibaka

i voted top 10 but now that I look over the names he can got between 5-8. If you asked me this question at the start of the season I would have said top 4-5 for sure. As of right now 7th

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #32 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 3:34 am

This Bosh is a close 2nd to Davis:

Torching the Aldridge/Lopez frontcourt
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZuO8qugwA[/youtube]

Besmirching the Griffin/Jordan frontcourt
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUG448y-Eho[/youtube]

Schooling Phoenix's young centers
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1MF573peq8[/youtube]

Taking a dump on Noah and the Bulls
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FhInRZSGUc[/youtube]

That's an assertive Bosh who calls for the ball and has plays run for him inside and out. Absolutely lethal in the triple threat position. He's the most talented scoring big in the NBA.

Problem is we don't get to see that Bosh most nights (for a variety of reasons, not all of them Bosh's fault), and until we do he's comfortably behind Davis, Griffin, Aldridge, and Duncan if you consider Duncan a PF.

Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #33 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:50 pm

Bosh appreciation time.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baNfV0QfJf4[/youtube]

contract · Post #34 » by **contract** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:53 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Bosh appreciation time.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baNfV0QfJf4[/youtube]

Amazing! The same Bosh that just held up the Heat for a 5 year max contract while Wade took another pay cut on a 2 year deal to help the team sign Deng and preserve flexibility to chase Durant in 2016.

Heat fans! :nonono:

Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #35 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:04 pm

contract wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Bosh appreciation time.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baNfV0QfJf4[/youtube]

Amazing! The same Bosh that just held up the Heat for a 5 year max contract while Wade took another pay cut on a 2 year deal to help the team sign Deng and preserve flexibility to chase Durant in 2016.

Heat fans!

Bosh didn't hold anyone up. The Rockets offered him that money. That's what he is worth.

dgonz424 · Post #36 » by **dgonz424** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:41 am

contract wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Bosh appreciation time.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baNfV0QfJf4[/youtube]

Amazing! The same Bosh that just held up the Heat for a 5 year max contract while Wade took another pay cut on a 2 year deal to help the team sign Deng and preserve flexibility to chase Durant in 2016.

Heat fans!

Bosh has no chronic injury concerns and is easily a top 5 PF. Definitely the best stretch forward in the world and can fulfill the value of his contract since his game doesn't wear on him.

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HeartBreakKid · Post #37 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:05 am

Bosh can't rebound (pretty evident by this point, only put up 9-10 rebounds in Toronto because he played with Bargnani and he hasn't come close to that since going to Miami), and he's not really a true first option scorer, there's no way he is top 3. Davis, Griffin and LMA are easily better as of now.

Next tier I'd probably put Zbo, Duncan, Milsap.

After that, probably Pau Gasol, Kevin Love and Bosh.

Throw Draymond Green in there to finish out the top ten.

El Alonzo scowl · Post #38 » by **El Alonzo scowl** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:48 am

I have him 3 or 4. He is an elite pick and roll defender, elite midrange shooter, elite clutch shotmaker, #2 scoring option, durable, great locker-room guy. The only #1 options at power forward are Griffin, The Brow, and LMA.

dancing2thabeet · Post #39 » by **dancing2thabeet** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:50 pm

HeartBreakKid wrote:Bosh can't rebound (pretty evident by this point, only put up 9-10 rebounds in Toronto because he played with Bargnani and he hasn't come close to that since going to Miami), and he's not really a true first option scorer, there's no way he is top 3. Davis, Griffin and LMA are easily better as of now.

Next tier I'd probably put Zbo, Duncan, Milsap.

After that, probably Pau Gasol, Kevin Love and Bosh.

Throw Draymond Green in there to finish out the top ten.

Zbo Gasol Millsap Love ... lol I was sure there were going to be Bass and Sullinger in your list in front of Bosh too

Also, Bosh has career RPG of 8.6 while LMA is at 8.4. Care to guess their career PPG? 19.3 for Bosh and 19.4 for LMA ... while taking note that Bosh played 4 season with those guys Dwyane Wade AND Lebron James. Let's take defense out of the question because Bosh eats LMA alive on that end. Wait maybe LMA has a better FG% than Bosh? Nope. Surely he is a better three point shooter than Bosh? Nope. But LMA made playoffs on his own! Yeah, he had to drag scrubs such as Lillard, Matthews, Batum and Lopez there. I'm running out of arguments for LMA.

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #40 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:41 pm

dancing2thabeet wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:Bosh can't rebound (pretty evident by this point, only put up 9-10 rebounds in Toronto because he played with Bargnani and he hasn't come close to that since going to Miami), and he's not really a true first option scorer, there's no way he is top 3. Davis, Griffin and LMA are easily better as of now.

Next tier I'd probably put Zbo, Duncan, Milsap.

After that, probably Pau Gasol, Kevin Love and Bosh.

Throw Draymond Green in there to finish out the top ten.

Zbo Gasol Millsap Love ... lol I was sure there were going to be Bass and Sullinger in your list in front of Bosh too

Also, Bosh has career RPG of 8.6 while LMA is at 8.4. Care to guess their career PPG? 19.3 for Bosh and 19.4 for LMA ... while taking note that Bosh played 4 season with those guys Dwyane Wade AND Lebron James. Let's take defense out of the question because Bosh eats LMA alive on that end. Wait maybe LMA has a better FG% than Bosh? Nope. Surely he is a better three point shooter than Bosh? Nope. But LMA made playoffs on his own! Yeah, he had to drag scrubs such as Lillard, Matthews, Batum and Lopez there. I'm running out of arguments for LMA.

Their head2head numbers are interesting, especially considering that Bosh was a distant 3rd option 4 of the last 5 years:

Bosh: 24.8 ppg - 8.0 rpg - 1.0 bpg - .545 fg% - .894 ft%
LMA: 21.9 ppg - 9.3 rpg - 0.5 bpg - .481 fg% - .824 ft%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=boshch01&p2=aldrila01