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Post#1 Kohl/Arena Discussion Page 71 - Study Release
Fri May 4, 2012 12:14 pm by MickeyDavis

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Post#2 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:15 pm by MickeyDavis

Asked if he felt pressure from the league to build a new arena to keep the team, Kohl said, "They would say without a new facility, Milwaukee's chances of remaining a part of the NBA are not robust," he said.

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Post#3 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:15 pm by MickeyDavis

I give him credit for finally coming out and saying something. It will still be years before we have a new building. If ever.
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Post#4 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:15 pm by Newz

That's very good news that he is willing to come out and say that.
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Post#5 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:22 pm by MickeyDavis

This is discussed in the press conference thread but it's a big deal he finally said SOMETHING.
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Post#6 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:25 pm by Thunder Muscle

Glad to hear but...

(I'll paste from other thread)

Only way we get a new arena is if Kohl chips in, stays a minority owner, and the new owner chips in the other part. There is NO way public money is going to fund any of this. It won't win a vote and people will freak. It needs to be privately funded all of the way and I don't know how that happens. I'm guessing a new arena will be $300-500M and Herb doesn't have that kind of cash flow I don't think. I still think this is a long shot especially with the overall fan apathy.
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Post#7 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:25 pm by chuckleslove

If only there was some big Milwaukee based company/business that wanted to spend about $300 million to expand their business and possibly work with the Bucks/city on an arena.

Oops
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Post#8 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:27 pm by Thunder Muscle

Go figure the worst timing by the Bucks when the economy is still bad and the state of the franchise is at an all-time low.
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Post#9 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:28 pm by Newz

chuckleslove wrote:If only there was some big Milwaukee based company/business that wanted to spend about $300 million to expand their business and possibly work with the Bucks/city on an arena.

Oops


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Post#10 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:36 pm by WEFFPIM

Frankly, it's a long time coming that someone with the team (or the city) threw their hat into the ring. The only people that have been speaking up about a new building are the Bradley Center people and occasionally Michael Hunt.

Will anything happen? Doubtful. But at least SOMEONE with a say in the matter has offered up a portion of the solution.
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Post#11 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:38 pm by Newz

Did it leave out the part of the interview when they asked Kohl how much he was willing to contribute and he said...



Then put his little finger up to his lips and pet his hairless cat?
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Post#12 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:39 pm by WEFFPIM

Newz wrote:Then put his little finger up to his lips and pet his hairless cat?


Hairless cat = Drew Gooden?
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Post#13 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:41 pm by th87

That's really nice of him - it's clear he wants the team to succeed.
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Post#14 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:41 pm by Newz

WEFFPIM wrote:
Newz wrote:Then put his little finger up to his lips and pet his hairless cat?


Hairless cat = Drew Gooden?


Bald Gooden with that crazy beard... he was just strokin' away at his dome and Gooden was all...

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Post#15 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:46 pm by Erifee

Shouldn't owners be expected to pay for a new arena? I'm sick of teams holding cities hostage and then gouging the fans at every opportunity once the ransom is paid.

If any public money is used, the taxpayers should get a guarantee that the team stays in Milwaukee for several decades.
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Post#16 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:47 pm by Thunder Muscle

Even if Kohl donates a 1/3 of his net worth, which is unlikely probably, that's about $90-95M...probably about a 1/4 of the entire arena price.
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Post#17 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:51 pm by Thunder Muscle

If you had a poll for lets say the 5 counties in the greater Milwaukee area. The 2 options were:

1. Minimal public tax for 20 years to help finance an arena and the Bucks are guaranteed to stay in that period.
2. No tax, Bucks leave town.

Over/Under 65% vote for No Tax, Bucks leave town.

I honestly would put my money on the over.
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Post#18 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:56 pm by mlloyd10

http://www.metromilwaukee.org/work/inde ... list&sid=5

List of companies that could split the bill
KOHL MUST GO
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Post#19 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:57 pm by unklchuk

I think Kohl's statement is extremely welcome. As to timing, I think it has to happen now. And if Kohl becomes a minority owner to somebody like Attanasio, I will nominate him for Herohood.

The Kohl statement combines the traditional plum (a not insignificant contribution from Herb) with one or two sticks (including the NBA's dim view of Milw without a new arena). A new arena will have economic value to the city and the city fathers, over coming decades, so I'd think they'll find a way to make some financial contribution. Probably without putting it to a vote.

This month just might go down in history as the beginning of a Bucks renaissance. New ownership, new arena, new energy -- with a honeymoon period to move away from the feeble Win Now toward genuine building of the team.

Behind the scenes, though, is waiting the real possibility that this will be the beginning of the end for the Bucks in Milwaukee. If the Kohl Plan goes nowhere, and the city fathers are smugly indifferent, this could be the last College Try before a move.

Call me a fool (not the first time ;) but I think this move by Kohl shows savvy leadership. I'm not used to describing his actions in those terms.

Build or get off the pot, Milwaukee. Give the franchise fresh health, or wave good bye. There comes a time when action one way or the other is mandated...
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Post#20 Re: Kohl: I'll help Pay For New Arena
Fri May 4, 2012 12:57 pm by RiotPunch

Yeah, people aren't going to support a tax for a new arena. Just ain't gonna happen.

I am pretty shocked that Kohl acknowledged this issue, as massive as the issue is I figured he would continue to sweep it under the rug for as long as possible. That's good to know that he would contribute (how much realistically, though?), but that still leaves an enormous amount of dough needed to get new arena built.
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