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Post#141 » by giraldo5 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:38 am

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emunney wrote:Yahoo article on him:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the ... ncaab.html

Lots of good stuff there. He's a really interesting player, very good vision and timing, quick hands. I'm also disappointed he's risen past where we'll pick, but he hasn't risen to the point where he's inaccessible if we're motivated.


Obviously my main guy is Goodwin, but I wonder what kind of assets it would take for the Bucks to move from ~15 to 5-8.

I'm happy to see MCW really grasp his opportunity.


I agree on Goodwin. He's gonna be a good one
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Post#142 » by Ayt » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:07 pm

Anyone watched Mohammed? He has only 4 assists in 6 games played so far. His assists by game have been 2, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0.

I'm also a fan of Goodwin.
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Post#143 » by SpursNBucks » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:17 pm

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emunney wrote:Yahoo article on him:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the ... ncaab.html

Lots of good stuff there. He's a really interesting player, very good vision and timing, quick hands. I'm also disappointed he's risen past where we'll pick, but he hasn't risen to the point where he's inaccessible if we're motivated.

I wouldn't worry about where they are now. January last year Jeremy lamb was top 6 as was Sully, PJ3 was top 12 and Deron Lamb was top 20. Lots can happen in 5-6 months.


WAY too early to try and figure out where some of these guys will go- you know Noel, Zeller, and Muhammed will be in the top 5, but after that too many things can happen. NOT at all inpressed with this Draft class- I don't see any "Franchise" types so I wouldn't cry about the Bucks not tanking it. If they did they would probably only end up with the 6th or 7th pick and that player may be no better then someone picked 15th- either way neither position is likely to give you a real impact player.
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Post#144 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:31 pm

Ayt wrote:Anyone watched Mohammed? He has only 4 assists in 6 games played so far. His assists by game have been 2, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0.

I'm also a fan of Goodwin.


Lot of people are saying we're just going to have to ignore numbers with him because of Howland's system.
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Post#146 » by RandyBreuer » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:11 am

what type of package could Hammond put together with the 16-20 pick to move up for Goodwin?
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Post#147 » by Badgerlander » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:47 pm

http://sportscows.com/2012/12/20/all-ab ... bandwagon/
A McDonald All-American out of high school and current freshman forward for the UNLV Rebels, Bennett has already taken Las Vegas by storm and is starting to take over the nation. One NBA Draft Expert said Bennett is a “man playing against boys.” Mentions of NBA Lottery Pick and POY award are now commonplace.

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Bennett’s talent and overall game have caught the eyes of many NBA scouts. Fans, analysts, and experts are all hopping aboard the Bennett Bandwagon. And rightfully so. Taking a deeper look at Bennett’s numbers shows just how impressive the 6-8 Canadian has been.

Through 12/20, Bennett is averaging 19.4 points per game. Bennett leads all freshmen in scoring and has the fourth-highest total overall by a forward/center. Bennett is second in the Mountain West for scoring, but leads all big men in the conference.

However, more impressively, Bennett has done this while averaging only 27.5 minutes per game. This is tied for the LOWEST TOTAL for anyone in the TOP 70. Bennett is averaging 0.704 points per minute. If he were to play a whole game, Bennett would average 28.2 points per game. With Mike Moser out, and Bennett starting to play more minutes, look for his average to converge closer to this average than his current average.

Of the top 30 scorers, Bennett has the second-highest field goal percentage (54.7%). He has scored double-figures in all 11 of UNLV’s games and has seven or more rebounds in 8 of them, with 4 double-doubles. Bennett is second in the MWC with 1.7 blocks per game and is shooting 75% from the line.

Since Moser went down with an injury, Bennett is averaging a double-double (20.5 /10.5), helping elevate a team—and city—that lost a leader and top player.

Bennett’s numbers are great, making a difference in all aspects of the game. However, perhaps even more importantly, Bennett has excelled as the face of the UNLV program, leading them to 11-1 and a #21/18 ranking.
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Post#148 » by bigkurty » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:55 pm

I would like to keep pimping Ben McLemore. I love his efficiency.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... n-mclemore

So right now on my being realistic mock draft board its Goodwin, McLemore, then McCollum if we are going for a SG in the draft.
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Post#149 » by bigkurty » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:58 pm

Oh wow, nbadraft.net moved McLemore up to #3. Wow, he was in the teens last I checked.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

So maybe he is not realistic then. Actually we might not have a chance at any of the 3 possibly. :(
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Post#150 » by mattg » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:07 pm

McLemore and Goodwin are pipedreams, they are going to go top 5. There's a big shortage of quality SGs in the NBA and those 2 have enormous potential, among the highest in the draft.
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Post#151 » by Rockmaninoff » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:35 am

mattg wrote:McLemore and Goodwin are pipedreams, they are going to go top 5. There's a big shortage of quality SGs in the NBA and those 2 have enormous potential, among the highest in the draft.


I agree. Overall this is shaping up to be a very good 'guards' draft. Bucks could potentially solve their issues here, if they wanted to be proactive.
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Post#152 » by emunney » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:44 am

Have you guys watched this DX breakdown on Karasev? This guy is a **** baller.

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Post#153 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:00 am

If a lot of the freshman this season come out early I don't see how this is considered as weak a draft as people say.

I'll admit to never watching him play but what about Andre Roberson? He looks to be an insane rebounder at SF, is he cut from the same cloth as a guy like Faried? Also, how does CJ Wilcox look? I've only seen him once and he looked like a legit NBA 2.
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Post#154 » by mattg » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:20 am

Don't think Roberson has the ball skills to play the 3 a lot in the NBA, hes an undersized 4.

Wilcox is a good shooter but I don't see much else honestly that makes me think he'll be anything more than a role player.
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Post#155 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:28 am

Yeah Wilcox reminded me a lot of a Morrow type player and I think we can do a lot worse then that at 15-20.
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Post#156 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:32 am

emunney wrote:Have you guys watched this DX breakdown on Karasev? This guy is a **** baller.



Not being snarky: what about that vid impressed you?
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Post#157 » by emunney » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:02 am

Exceptional feel and skill level against quality competition at a very young age.
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Post#158 » by Nebula1 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:30 pm

Ford Top 20

1 Nerlens Noel 18 C 6-11 215 Kentucky

2 Alex Len 19 C 7-1 225 Maryland

3 Shabazz Muhammad 19 SF 6-6 225 UCLA

4 Ben McLemore 20 SG 6-5 195 Kansas

5 Cody Zeller 20 C 6-11 210 Indiana

6 Anthony Bennett 19 PF 6-8 240 UNLV

7 Alex Poythress 19 SF 6-7 215 Kentucky

8 Otto Porter 19 SF 6-8 200 Georgetown

9 Michael Carter-Williams 21 PG 6-5 175 Syracuse

10 Archie Goodwin 18 SG 6-5 195 Kentucky

11 Rudy Gobert 20 PF 7-1 220 France

12 Mason Plumlee 22 PF 6-10 230 Duke

13 C.J. McCollum 21 SG 6-3 190 Lehigh

14 Isaiah Austin 19 PF 7-0 215 Baylor

15 Marcus Smart 18 PG 6-4 225 Oklahoma State

16 Dario Saric 18 SF 6-10 223 Croatia

17 James Michael McAdoo 19 PF 6-9 223 North Carolina

18 Tony Mitchell 20 SF 6-8 220 North Texas

19 B.J. Young 19 PG 6-3 170 Arkansas

20 Jamaal Franklin 21 SG 6-5 195 San Diego State

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/re ... /year/2013


DX Top 20

1 Shabazz Muhammad SG
19 years old; 6'6"; 223 lbs.
UCLA, Freshman

2 Nerlens Noel C
18 years old; 6'11"; 216 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman

3 Cody Zeller C
20 years old; 7'0"; 240 lbs.
Indiana, Sophomore

4 Rudy Gobert PF/C
20 years old; 7'1"; 235 lbs.
Cholet, International

5 Alex Len C
19 years old; 7'1"; 225 lbs.
Maryland, Sophomore

6 Isaiah Austin C
19 years old; 6'11"; 201 lbs.
Baylor, Freshman

7 Alex Poythress SF/PF
19 years old; 6'8"; 239 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman

8 Archie Goodwin SG
18 years old; 6'5"; 195 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman

9 Mason Plumlee PF
22 years old; 6'11"; 245 lbs.
Duke, Senior

10 James McAdoo PF
19 years old; 6'9"; 226 lbs.
North Carolina, Sophomore

11 Tony Mitchell PF
20 years old; 6'8"; 235 lbs.
North Texas, Sophomore

12 C.J. McCollum PG/SG
21 years old; 6'3"; 165 lbs.
Lehigh, Senior

13 Michael Carter-Williams PG/SG
21 years old; 6'5"; 167 lbs.
Syracuse, Sophomore

14 Otto Porter SF
19 years old; 6'8"; 200 lbs.
Georgetown, Sophomore

15 Dario Saric SF
18 years old; 6'10"; 223 lbs.
Cibona Zagreb, International

16 Anthony Bennett PF
19 years old; 6'7"; 239 lbs.
UNLV, Freshman

17 Ben McLemore SG
19 years old; 6'4"; 181 lbs.
Kansas, Freshman

18 B.J. Young SG
19 years old; 6'3"; 158 lbs.
Arkansas, Sophomore

19 LeBryan Nash SF/PF
20 years old; 6'7"; 220 lbs.
Oklahoma State, Sophomore

20 Trey Burke PG
20 years old; 6'0"; 180 lbs.
Michigan, Sophomore

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Post#159 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:36 pm

I'd be stunned if Bennett and McLemore make it out of the lotto.
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Post#160 » by Nebula1 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:47 pm

Agreed on both players. I think DX has some work to do as Ford's looks closer.

I actually like this draft and long for a top 8 pick.


With the League going small, this draft is heavy with legit bigs.
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