'13 Draft Thread (Let's talk late lotto again! Yaaay!!)

[trwi7]

I agree, MLB does it best. I would want that in conjunction with a full-function D-League. I'm glad they're expanding the D-League but it's still a pretty **** half-measure as it stands.

Twirl, how does the NHL handle it?

Any North American player age 18-20 is eligible to be drafted whether it's from high school, USHL, CHL whatever. High school and USHL players can either sign with the team that drafted them or go to college. CHL players can sign with the team and if they're good enough stay with the team or be sent back to their CHL team.

It's basically the same for European players. They can be drafted at any age though and can stay with their European team.

There is one loophole that will likely be closed in the next CBA. Justin Schultz was drafted by Anaheim in the 2nd round, he went to play for Wisconsin, he played there and then de-registered giving Anaheim 30 days to sign him or trade him or he would become an unrestricted free agent. They couldn't sign him and didn't trade him so he became a UFA and signed with Edmonton.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

I wouldn't take either of the Minny guys in the top 25.

Yeah, I pretty much agree. I was mostly kidding. To be picked any where around the lottery Mbakwe would probably have to be B1G player of the year or something else crazy and Rodney would have to prove he has a legit three point shot. Neither are likely. I don't even think Elias Harris is a legit lottery option, but I think all 3 of those players could be good value towards the end of the first round or early 2nd round.

Mbakwe's going to be 24... I think he could win the Naismith and Wooden and he'd still fall out of the lotto.

Unless a "win-now" team just happened to have a late lottery draft pick.

Elias Harris is actually going to be 24 as well, I believe. Although he took a much different road than Mbakwe since he came to Gonzaga from Germany as a 20 year old freshman.

[emunney]

Yeah, I pretty much agree. I was mostly kidding. To be picked any where around the lottery Mbakwe would probably have to be B1G player of the year or something else crazy and Rodney would have to prove he has a legit three point shot. Neither are likely. I don't even think Elias Harris is a legit lottery option, but I think all 3 of those players could be good value towards the end of the first round or early 2nd round.

Mbakwe's going to be 24... I think he could win the Naismith and Wooden and he'd still fall out of the lotto.

Unless a "win-now" team with a Pokemon-esque attitude toward PFs just happened to have a late lottery draft pick.

Edited for clarity.

[Badgerlander]

I liked what I saw of Isaiah Austin in the McD's All-American game, unfortunate that he chose Baylor

[emunney]

I agree, MLB does it best. I would want that in conjunction with a full-function D-League. I'm glad they're expanding the D-League but it's still a pretty **** half-measure as it stands.

Twirl, how does the NHL handle it?

Any North American player age 18-20 is eligible to be drafted whether it's from high school, USHL, CHL whatever. High school and USHL players can either sign with the team that drafted them or go to college. CHL players can sign with the team and if they're good enough stay with the team or be sent back to their CHL team.

It's basically the same for European players. They can be drafted at any age though and can stay with their European team.

There is one loophole that will likely be closed in the next CBA. Justin Schultz was drafted by Anaheim in the 2nd round, he went to play for Wisconsin, he played there and then de-registered giving Anaheim 30 days to sign him or trade him or he would become an unrestricted free agent. They couldn't sign him and didn't trade him so he became a UFA and signed with Edmonton.

Thanks, twirl.

So other than that loophole, you retain the rights of the players you draft indefinitely? If you don't get drafted at 20, are you a UFA at 21? Could a European be drafted at 12? Has anybody ever picked like the infant son of an all-time great late in the draft?

[MikeIsGood]

I want there to be either no restriction, or restrict them for at least two years post-high school. The one year rule sucks.

I'll admit that it's also impossible for me not to be biased on this as a huge college basketball fan who wants to see top talent play.

Anyway, I'll be a little more realistic than some others...I want Cody Zeller

[trwi7]

So other than that loophole, you retain the rights of the players you draft indefinitely? If you don't get drafted at 20, are you a UFA at 21? Could a European be drafted at 12? Has anybody ever picked like the infant son of an all-time great late in the draft?

I believe you have to sign players in a certain amount of years or you lose the rights to that player, I've seen two years written but that doesn't seem right though I suppose it could be since players in the CHL are 18 when drafted and are only eligible to play there until they are 20 and since they can't go to college after that, they have no choice but to go pro. I would imagine it's around 2-4 years to sign a player or you lose him.

And I guess technically a European player could be drafted at 12 and no no infant of an all-time great has ever been drafted.

[emunney]

That is awesome. With 7 rounds, you'd think they'd do some serious prospecting toward the end. Yeah, I know little Ovechkin, Jr. hasn't been conceived yet, but he's got to be worth a 6th rounder even if he remains theoretical.

[trwi7]

That is awesome. With 7 rounds, you'd think they'd do some serious prospecting toward the end. Yeah, I know little Ovechkin, Jr. hasn't been conceived yet, but he's got to be worth a 6th rounder even if he remains theoretical.

I did check and you do have to sign a player two years after he's drafted. So you would potentially have to sign an infant Ovechkin.

[emunney]

That ruins EVERYTHING.

[Nebula1]

For 2014 two new mixes

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtuR-xdFXqo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNi4iOu9NCU[/youtube]

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2014/

[LUKE23]

Wiggins is an absolute stud.

[Nebula1]

I'm just hoping to somehow snag Goodwin in 2013 since we still feel these chippers aren't worth going after. Agreed Wiggins is a monster.

[AussieBuck]

Thought I'd get it started with this snippet from today's wiretap.

“NBA draft people have said I'm like a sick mix of Kevin Garnett and Perry Jones III.”



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z23ciSOySa

Kid is just way too humble, IMO

I still love this comparison. "I'm a mix between one of the best players ever and a guy who is a homeless man's version of the best of the first guys qualities."

[emunney]

[AussieBuck]

Seriously I don't get it. Even at the height of the Perry Jones' hype what perceived skill/attribute did he have that Garnett didn't? "I'm a sick mix of Lebron and Joe Alexander!!"

[emunney]

Dunno, does he have a lazy eye?

[Nebula1]

With college ball only one month out, a quick peak at DX top 20

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/

1. Shabazz Muhammad
2. Nerlens Noel
3. Cody Zeller
4. Rudy Gobert
5. James McAdoo
6. Isaiah Austin
7. Alex Poythress
8. Tony Mitchell
9. Archie Goodwin
10. Dario Saric
11. CJ Leslie
12. Mason Plumlee
13. Alex Len
14. LeBryan Nash
15. CJ McCollum
16. Adonis Thomas
17. BJ Young
18. Alex Abrines
19. Patric Young
20. Myck Kabongo

*SGs in bold

[Nebula1]

ESPN Chad Ford Top 20

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/re ... /year/2013

1. Nerlens Noel
2. Cody Zeller
3. Shabazz Muhammad
4. James McAdoo
5. Tony Mitchell
6. Isaiah Austin
7. Alex Poythress
8. Steven Adams
9. Rudy Gobert
10. Dario Saric
11. Archie Goodwin
12. Otto Porter
13. Adonis Thomas
14. Anthony Bennett
15. BJ Young
16. Mason Plumlee
17. Kyle Anderson
18. Michael Carter-Williams
19. Gorgui Dieng
20. Ben McLemore

[Newz]

Love me some Cody Zeller.