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Post#151 » by Rockmaninoff » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:35 am

mattg wrote:McLemore and Goodwin are pipedreams, they are going to go top 5. There's a big shortage of quality SGs in the NBA and those 2 have enormous potential, among the highest in the draft.


I agree. Overall this is shaping up to be a very good 'guards' draft. Bucks could potentially solve their issues here, if they wanted to be proactive.
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Post#152 » by emunney » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:44 am

Have you guys watched this DX breakdown on Karasev? This guy is a **** baller.

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Post#153 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:00 am

If a lot of the freshman this season come out early I don't see how this is considered as weak a draft as people say.

I'll admit to never watching him play but what about Andre Roberson? He looks to be an insane rebounder at SF, is he cut from the same cloth as a guy like Faried? Also, how does CJ Wilcox look? I've only seen him once and he looked like a legit NBA 2.
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Post#154 » by mattg » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:20 am

Don't think Roberson has the ball skills to play the 3 a lot in the NBA, hes an undersized 4.

Wilcox is a good shooter but I don't see much else honestly that makes me think he'll be anything more than a role player.
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Post#155 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:28 am

Yeah Wilcox reminded me a lot of a Morrow type player and I think we can do a lot worse then that at 15-20.
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Post#156 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:32 am

emunney wrote:Have you guys watched this DX breakdown on Karasev? This guy is a **** baller.



Not being snarky: what about that vid impressed you?
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Post#157 » by emunney » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:02 am

Exceptional feel and skill level against quality competition at a very young age.
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Post#158 » by Nebula1 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:30 pm

Ford Top 20

1 Nerlens Noel 18 C 6-11 215 Kentucky

2 Alex Len 19 C 7-1 225 Maryland

3 Shabazz Muhammad 19 SF 6-6 225 UCLA

4 Ben McLemore 20 SG 6-5 195 Kansas

5 Cody Zeller 20 C 6-11 210 Indiana

6 Anthony Bennett 19 PF 6-8 240 UNLV

7 Alex Poythress 19 SF 6-7 215 Kentucky

8 Otto Porter 19 SF 6-8 200 Georgetown

9 Michael Carter-Williams 21 PG 6-5 175 Syracuse

10 Archie Goodwin 18 SG 6-5 195 Kentucky

11 Rudy Gobert 20 PF 7-1 220 France

12 Mason Plumlee 22 PF 6-10 230 Duke

13 C.J. McCollum 21 SG 6-3 190 Lehigh

14 Isaiah Austin 19 PF 7-0 215 Baylor

15 Marcus Smart 18 PG 6-4 225 Oklahoma State

16 Dario Saric 18 SF 6-10 223 Croatia

17 James Michael McAdoo 19 PF 6-9 223 North Carolina

18 Tony Mitchell 20 SF 6-8 220 North Texas

19 B.J. Young 19 PG 6-3 170 Arkansas

20 Jamaal Franklin 21 SG 6-5 195 San Diego State

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/re ... /year/2013


DX Top 20

1 Shabazz Muhammad SG
19 years old; 6'6"; 223 lbs.
UCLA, Freshman

2 Nerlens Noel C
18 years old; 6'11"; 216 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman

3 Cody Zeller C
20 years old; 7'0"; 240 lbs.
Indiana, Sophomore

4 Rudy Gobert PF/C
20 years old; 7'1"; 235 lbs.
Cholet, International

5 Alex Len C
19 years old; 7'1"; 225 lbs.
Maryland, Sophomore

6 Isaiah Austin C
19 years old; 6'11"; 201 lbs.
Baylor, Freshman

7 Alex Poythress SF/PF
19 years old; 6'8"; 239 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman

8 Archie Goodwin SG
18 years old; 6'5"; 195 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman

9 Mason Plumlee PF
22 years old; 6'11"; 245 lbs.
Duke, Senior

10 James McAdoo PF
19 years old; 6'9"; 226 lbs.
North Carolina, Sophomore

11 Tony Mitchell PF
20 years old; 6'8"; 235 lbs.
North Texas, Sophomore

12 C.J. McCollum PG/SG
21 years old; 6'3"; 165 lbs.
Lehigh, Senior

13 Michael Carter-Williams PG/SG
21 years old; 6'5"; 167 lbs.
Syracuse, Sophomore

14 Otto Porter SF
19 years old; 6'8"; 200 lbs.
Georgetown, Sophomore

15 Dario Saric SF
18 years old; 6'10"; 223 lbs.
Cibona Zagreb, International

16 Anthony Bennett PF
19 years old; 6'7"; 239 lbs.
UNLV, Freshman

17 Ben McLemore SG
19 years old; 6'4"; 181 lbs.
Kansas, Freshman

18 B.J. Young SG
19 years old; 6'3"; 158 lbs.
Arkansas, Sophomore

19 LeBryan Nash SF/PF
20 years old; 6'7"; 220 lbs.
Oklahoma State, Sophomore

20 Trey Burke PG
20 years old; 6'0"; 180 lbs.
Michigan, Sophomore

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/
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Post#159 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:36 pm

I'd be stunned if Bennett and McLemore make it out of the lotto.
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Post#160 » by Nebula1 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:47 pm

Agreed on both players. I think DX has some work to do as Ford's looks closer.

I actually like this draft and long for a top 8 pick.


With the League going small, this draft is heavy with legit bigs.
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Post#161 » by fansinceforever » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:59 pm

Id target McCollum since we may be able to realistically nab him.
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Post#162 » by WiscoKing13 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:17 pm

Any thoughts on brandon paul out of Illinois?
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Post#163 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:38 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Agreed on both players. I think DX has some work to do as Ford's looks closer.

I actually like this draft and long for a top 8 pick.


With the League going small, this draft is heavy with legit bigs.


It's a pretty deep class overall provided everyone declares. I'd just hate to be a bottom three team looking for a franchise player, because there isn't one.
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Post#164 » by mattg » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:23 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:Any thoughts on brandon paul out of Illinois?

Second rounder. Not a fan of his game at all.

Yet another draft where if you can get into the 7-9 range there will be a very nice player there. And yet again we'll be picking near 15.
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Post#165 » by giraldo5 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:01 am

Huge fan of Jamalal Franklin. Reminds me a lot of a poor man's Kawhi Leonard. Would love him in the 13-18 range
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Post#166 » by mattg » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:28 am

giraldo5 wrote:Huge fan of Jamalal Franklin. Reminds me a lot of a poor man's Kawhi Leonard. Would love him in the 13-18 range

What do you like about him? I mean he has great athleticism and frame, and is really aggressive, but that's all he really has going for him. He can't shoot or dribble, his shot selection is bad, he's not a defender(though people project him as one with his tools), and he's not a playmaker. I just don't see his game translating at all.
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Post#167 » by giraldo5 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:26 am

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giraldo5 wrote:Huge fan of Jamalal Franklin. Reminds me a lot of a poor man's Kawhi Leonard. Would love him in the 13-18 range

What do you like about him? I mean he has great athleticism and frame, and is really aggressive, but that's all he really has going for him. He can't shoot or dribble, his shot selection is bad, he's not a defender(though people project him as one with his tools), and he's not a playmaker. I just don't see his game translating at all.


I think he'll be an excellent defender and garbage man. Poor mans Leonard, Gerald Wallace etc. Just a very useful player. By no means a star but when your picking in the teens you can't expect that. I wouldn't take him top 10 but where the Bucks project to pick I think he'll be an excellent 2/3 off the bench at the very least.
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Post#168 » by giraldo5 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:31 am

And if we are drafting 8-12 I'd love Otto Porter out of Georgetown. Just does it all kind of guy. Those are my top 2 realistic targets for the Bucks. My big board as of now goes like this

1. Anthony Bennett
2. Nerlens Noel
3. Archie Goodwin
4. Alex Poythress
5. Shabazz Muhammed
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Post#169 » by giraldo5 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:39 am

giraldo5 wrote:And if we are drafting 8-12 I'd love Otto Porter out of Georgetown. Just does it all kind of guy. Those are my top 2 realistic targets for the Bucks. My big board as of now goes like this

1. Anthony Bennett
2. Nerlens Noel
3. Archie Goodwin
4. Alex Poythress
5. Shabazz Muhammed


As an aside, I've never watched Alex Len play so I didn't rate him.
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Post#170 » by mattg » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:40 am

I just can't get behind a guy who's all athleticism and still would have to learn to defend and be an effective garbage man(not to mention I don't think you learn to be that type of player). Franklin just isn't any good at those things right now and it's not really his game. I'd much rather spend a pick on a guy I know can at least do something well at the nba level right away.

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