ATL - Can't bear to watch the Pistons edition

[BUCKnation]

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO

Word around NBA is Jazz G Alec Burks is available. Burks, the 12th overall draft pick in 2011, has played in just 5 of Jazz's 10 games.

Definitely interested. I wonder what they would want.

[Baddy Chuck]

This Utah team is so talented, but not producing the way the should. Granted the bulk of their games have been on the road so far, but their results should be better.

They need to blow it up. Hayward and Favors are good young players and Kanter/Burks need more time to show what they have. Millsap is a good player, but the rest of their vets (Mo/Big Al/Williams etc) are all pretty mediocre at best.

[ampd]

Would take Burks but it's hard to say what his value is.

[Baddy Chuck]

Would take Burks but it's hard to say what his value is.

Yeah I'm not sure. Udoh? Luc? TPE/protected 1st?

[Nebula1]

Memphis is focused on what could have been a let down game after the knicks.

[Nebula1]

Memphis is focused on what could have been a let down game after the knicks.

[blkout]

Double post 34 minutes apart, you don't see that every day

[BUCKnation]

Double post 34 minutes apart, you don't see that every day

Does that top the MBBOT triple post in the GT?

[blazza18]

I wonder how focused Memphis were tonight ?


Aussie Irving had 26 points but no assists.

[Nebula1]

Double post 34 minutes apart, you don't see that every day

Does that top the MBBOT triple post in the GT?

I think it's my 4g tonight

[ReasonablySober]

Interesting note from Bucher.

Maybe my astute Tweeples know this, but I can assure you some team personnel do not: if you offer an Asik-or-Lin type deal to an RFA with the money stacked in one particular year, those are the terms for the incumbent team matching it. Rockets, though, don't have to pay it out that way or have it count against their cap as such -- Asik, I'm told, is getting $8 million a year for three years, not the $5m-$5m-$14m as written in the offer sheet the Bulls had to match. Or so a confab of two GMs told me in person. Hard to see why every RFA contract here on out won't be constructed with pain-in-the-$%^* terms.

Wow.

[trwi7]

Interesting note from Bucher.

Maybe my astute Tweeples know this, but I can assure you some team personnel do not: if you offer an Asik-or-Lin type deal to an RFA with the money stacked in one particular year, those are the terms for the incumbent team matching it. Rockets, though, don't have to pay it out that way or have it count against their cap as such -- Asik, I'm told, is getting $8 million a year for three years, not the $5m-$5m-$14m as written in the offer sheet the Bulls had to match. Or so a confab of two GMs told me in person. Hard to see why every RFA contract here on out won't be constructed with pain-in-the-$%^* terms.

Wow.

The lockout did wonders to close loopholes like this.

[ampd]

If the Knicks look to deal Amar'e eventually, are we interested I wonder? The injuries would scare me off at least as much as the salary honestly but with that salary there can't be too many bidders. Maybe the Lakers offer to swap him for Pau.

[ReasonablySober]

If the Knicks look to deal Amar'e eventually, are we interested I wonder? The injuries would scare me off at least as much as the salary honestly but with that salary there can't be too many bidders. Maybe the Lakers offer to swap him for Pau.

On what planet would anyone deal for the useless carcass of Stoudemire?

[Baddy Chuck]

If the Knicks look to deal Amar'e eventually, are we interested I wonder?

[AussieBuck]

I thought that stuff was common knowledge by now, maybe I spent too much tim on the Houston board. Also if we get Amare I'm going to become a Pistons fan. It would be less painful.

[ampd]

I more meant in the sense that might Hammond be interested (after he mentioned the Boston model), not that I personally want Amar'e on the team. If it were up to me we'd just play the young guys and amnesty Gooden in the off season. Maybe use the cap space to make some of these RFA offers

[paulpressey25]

Cash flow wise, Houston has to pay the 5, 5, 14 in that order. The cash flow can't be altered. Bucher is wrong on that aspect.

However, for Houston's cap purposes in making the offer, they have to have the cap space of the average salary to do this. And for consistency, the average of the three years counts on the cap.

[Ayt]

Interesting note from Bucher.

Maybe my astute Tweeples know this, but I can assure you some team personnel do not: if you offer an Asik-or-Lin type deal to an RFA with the money stacked in one particular year, those are the terms for the incumbent team matching it. Rockets, though, don't have to pay it out that way or have it count against their cap as such -- Asik, I'm told, is getting $8 million a year for three years, not the $5m-$5m-$14m as written in the offer sheet the Bulls had to match. Or so a confab of two GMs told me in person. Hard to see why every RFA contract here on out won't be constructed with pain-in-the-$%^* terms.

Wow.

Bucher is a **** moron. This only applies to RFA's who qualify for the Arenas' rule. How is this guy paid to cover the NBA? There are strict guidelines as to how contracts can be structured.

The Arenas rule rarely comes up because it only applies to 2nd round picks and undrafted guys who blow up. Houston just happened to have signed two of them in one offseason in Asik and Lin. It could not come up again for several more seasons because it is so rare for a 2nd rounder or undrafted guy to blow up to the point that they'll be offered more than the MLE on their second contract as an RFA.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q44

Bucher is paid big bucks to cover the NBA and he can't take the 5 minutes or less it should take to read and understand that rule?

[Ayt]

Double post 34 minutes apart, you don't see that every day