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WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby sosa on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:29 pm

Question from a confused fantasy owner.

What's going on with Ersan? I've watched only one Bucks game so far, and I think he got into early foul trouble against the cavs.

Is he being frozen out of the offense by Jennings/Ellis?

Is Skiles screwing around with his playing time?

What are your expectations that he can turn it around this season? And, what needs to happen so that Ersan can get back to his game?

Please help. I'm terribly confused about his production so far. I spent a high draft pick on him in my league, and I desperately need him to produce like he did last year.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby BigDoggyStyle on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:31 pm

It's just Skiles being Skiles. Can affect any player at any time, with the exception of Jennings and Ellis.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby EastSideBucksFan on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:34 pm

Too many pumpfakes.

Ersan not being aggressive enough.

Also not getting passed the ball enough.

Also not seeing the floor long enough. He's a rhythm player.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby sosa on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:36 pm

BigDoggyStyle wrote:It's just Skiles being Skiles. Can affect any player at any time, with the exception of Jennings and Ellis.


So, what's the difference between last year and this year with Skiles and Ilyasova? Did Ersan come into camp out of shape? Did he get lazy after getting paid? Is he in the dog house? Is L. Sanders/M. Dunleavy going to eat into his minutes all year long?

I'm just trying to gather some info from Bucks fans about him? I'm thinking about dealing him but I don't want to sell low, if you know what I mean.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby JimmyTheKid on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:37 pm

BigDoggyStyle wrote:It's just Skiles being Skiles.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby JustinCredible on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:41 pm

Last year, Ersan got most of his production from 3pt shots, slashes to the basket, and put-backs. His shot isn't falling as well yet this year so far. The bigger long-term issue I see is that I think he was so effective last year due to playing next to Drew Gooden. Drew is a horrible player that should never be a center, but we had to use him there last year. One thing Drew is really good at is hitting the mid-range jumper. This pulled out the defense and allowed Ersan to get his slashes and offensive rebounds. That is going to be much more difficult playing alongside Dalembert and Sanders. I'd still much rather play anyone over Drew Gooden, but offensively it may be affecting Ersan.

Just a thought that has been brought up before by others.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby sosa on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:42 pm

**** SKILES!!!!...

How can you give someone that type of contract ($40m/5 years) and not give him the minutes?

Last question.... is there any hope for Ersan this year?
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby Buck You on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:43 pm

The Tim Thomas contract year virus may have bit another buck.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby sosa on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:44 pm

JustinCredible wrote:Last year, Ersan got most of his production from 3pt shots, slashes to the basket, and put-backs. His shot isn't falling as well yet this year so far. The bigger long-term issue I see is that I think he was so effective last year due to playing next to Drew Gooden. Drew is a horrible player that should never be a center, but we had to use him there last year. One thing Drew is really good at is hitting the mid-range jumper. This pulled out the defense and allowed Ersan to get his slashes and offensive rebounds. That is going to be much more difficult playing alongside Dalembert and Sanders. I'd still much rather play anyone over Drew Gooden, but offensively it may be affecting Ersan.

Just a thought that has been brought up before by others.


Appreciate the insight. That's the type of insider info I knew I could find on this board. Would it be wrong of me to hope Drew Gooden starts for the Bucks again? Lol
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby Nebula1 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:47 pm

Ersan is still hitting the boards, but the jumper isn't falling. I suspect it will as the season unfolds. I'm not worried about him, but I still wouldn't have re-signed him if I had my preferences.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby EastSideBucksFan on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:48 pm

sosa wrote:**** SKILES!!!!...

How can you give someone that type of contract ($40m/5 years) and not give him the minutes?

Last question.... is there any hope for Ersan this year?




Ersan gets better as the year goes along.

He's still a good lock to have a 13pts/8rebs sort of year, but if you're hoping for a 17/10 sort of year you might not get that.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby zmanishere11 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:49 pm

It's the NBA and he got paid - what'd you expect?

I wouldn't touch the guy for 3 more years. Year 5 is non-guarenteed, so he'll play his face off that 4th year. At this rate, you can probably pick him up in the later round of your 2015 draft
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby sosa on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:51 pm

I could live with 13/8 and good percentages.

I need him to have a string of good games, then I'll look to trade him.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby ReasonablySober on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:51 pm

In the 14 games Ersan started prior to the trade for Ellis he averaged 13 FGAs per game. In the 18 games after Ellis arrived Ersan averaged 10 FGA/game. I don't think they've really figured out how to get him involved with Ellis as the 1st or 2nd offensive option.
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Re: WTF is going on with Ilyasova?

Postby CanadaBucks on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:54 pm

I think it's 3 games into the season and way too early to make any rational conclusions
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