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GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge?)

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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#391 » by stevescheffler06 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:19 pm

Henson looks like he could eventually be good but lets not get hyped over some garbage time points. And the fact that he shot within 3 seconds of touching the ball every time he got it.
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Post#392 » by emunney » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:19 pm

Ersan isn't going to lose minutes to Henson based on some totally meaningless minutes in which Henson didn't even play that well.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#393 » by SupremeHustle » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:20 pm

stevescheffler06 wrote:Henson looks like he could eventually be good but lets not get hyped over some garbage time points. And the fact that he shot within 3 seconds of touching the ball every time he got it.


I kinda like that he's a gunner.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#394 » by paul » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:21 pm

stevescheffler06 wrote:Henson looks like he could eventually be good but lets not get hyped over some garbage time points. And the fact that he shot within 3 seconds of touching the ball every time he got it.


He's done that pretty much every time we've ever seen him play, including Summer League. It's a cute habit now, it won't be if he's doing it getting 30mpg. :D
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#395 » by randy84 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:22 pm

emunney wrote:Ersan isn't going to lose minutes to Henson based on some totally meaningless minutes in which Henson didn't even play that well.


Did say he would, but he should.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#396 » by ampd » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:24 pm

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paul wrote:Great win, but man the Pacers are bad right now. I watched some of their loss to the Raps at home last night and to say it was bad would be a massive understatement, then they followed it with this....


This is the problem when you don't have a superstar. You get the chemistry just right for one season like the Pacers did last year and then if some small variable changes....

We could be a 50 win team this year and then have it all collapse next season.


Yeah, post FTD comes to mind.


How is both of those teams losing their best player for months to a devastating injury (which Bogut still hasn't recovered fully from years later) a small variable change?
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#397 » by paul » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:30 pm

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This is the problem when you don't have a superstar. You get the chemistry just right for one season like the Pacers did last year and then if some small variable changes....

We could be a 50 win team this year and then have it all collapse next season.


Yeah, post FTD comes to mind.


How is both of those teams losing their best player for months to a devastating injury (which Bogut still hasn't recovered fully from years later) a small variable change?


I don't think Granger's their best player, but that's not that important. Post FTD was killed by Maggette's acquisition and Salmons playing like dead dogs nuts as much as it was by Bogut's injury - which despite hurting him didn't stop him being a 13/11 guy and one of the best defenders in the NBA that season. I think Press' point was that when you don't have a superstar chemistry is a vital ingredient and it doesn't take much to kill it completely - that was kind of what I was agreeing with.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#398 » by White+Purple » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:33 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:This is the problem when you don't have a superstar. You get the chemistry just right for one season like the Pacers did last year and then if some small variable changes....

We could be a 50 win team this year and then have it all collapse next season.


Yeah, post FTD comes to mind.


How is both of those teams losing their best player for months to a devastating injury (which Bogut still hasn't recovered fully from years later) a small variable change?

PP and Paul were having a nice friendly conversation and you bring Bogut into it? For shame :nonono:

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Post#399 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:41 pm

paul wrote:
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paul wrote:Great win, but man the Pacers are bad right now. I watched some of their loss to the Raps at home last night and to say it was bad would be a massive understatement, then they followed it with this....


This is the problem when you don't have a superstar. You get the chemistry just right for one season like the Pacers did last year and then if some small variable changes....

We could be a 50 win team this year and then have it all collapse next season.


Yeah, post FTD comes to mind.


Great post by PP and good follow-up. My thoughts exactly. In some ways, little stretches like this are the worst thing that can happen to the Bucks because it ensures that they stick with the plan that guarantees they will generally only have one good season out of every 5 or 6.
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Post#400 » by SpursNBucks » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:54 pm

emunney wrote:Ersan isn't going to lose minutes to Henson based on some totally meaningless minutes in which Henson didn't even play that well.


There's no doubt Henson had the ability to be a better all-around player, but they might not want to put too much on a rookie especially if they continue to do well. I think Ersan could be trade bait - he wont be unless he plays better though - right now he has lost confidence and shooting like crap.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#401 » by Thunder Muscle » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:08 am

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Post#402 » by Villanoeyebrows » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:23 pm

Henson's height, length, hands, shooting touch, and footwork have me excited. But his body is real soft, I don't think he is ready to start this season. I would love to have him battle for minutes behind Ersan until his shoulders and chest fill out. I think playing behind a high effort vet is the best way to develop youngsters.
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Post#403 » by emunney » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:30 pm

Henson has a TON of ability, it's just difficult to gauge his progress in the last 7 minutes of a game up by 2 dozen. It had a pick up game tone, and the way he played was part of that. I'm glad he hit his shots and blocked a few, but he also let a couple guys past him, didn't really box out, drifted around the perimeter offensively and didn't set good screens. Considering how well our bigs executed in this game, there was nothing Henson did that would compel me to put him in over the guys who played ahead of him yesterday, although there was enough to demonstrate what makes him an exciting prospect.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#404 » by Badgerlander » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:54 pm

I have mostly been impressed with Henson's ability to finish around the basket, and that he isn't hesitant to put the ball down and drive to the hole and doesn't shy away from contact. When Plumlee went up to protect the rim last night Henson just bendy-strawed his long arms right around him and flushed it.
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Post#405 » by emunney » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:02 pm

Yeah, he's got good touch with either hand but prefers his left. One of a handful of rare idiosyncrasies he shares with Bogut.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#406 » by Rockmaninoff » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:06 pm

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stevescheffler06 wrote:Henson looks like he could eventually be good but lets not get hyped over some garbage time points. And the fact that he shot within 3 seconds of touching the ball every time he got it.


I kinda like that he's a gunner.


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Post#407 » by emunney » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:22 pm

I like that he gets his shots up, but I wish he took more of them from the post. He's got some really natural moves and just in general I love watching a good post player. Next year I want him to start putting guys in the torture chamber.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#408 » by CanadaBucks » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:35 pm

emunney wrote:I like that he gets his shots up, but I wish he took more of them from the post. He's got some really natural moves and just in general I love watching a good post player. Next year I want him to start putting guys in the torture chamber.


His lefty hook looks real nice and could be nearly unstoppable.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#409 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:52 pm

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emunney wrote:I like that he gets his shots up, but I wish he took more of them from the post. He's got some really natural moves and just in general I love watching a good post player. Next year I want him to start putting guys in the torture chamber.


His lefty hook looks real nice and could be nearly unstoppable.

He better get Kareem range on them because he sure aint getting position on that low block.
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Re: GT: 11/14/12 Bucks vs. Pacers 7pm CST, (Larry's Revenge? 

Post#410 » by Max Green » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:09 pm

I can see him developing a nice face up game fairly soon, he has a better handle then I thought, he's already shown flashes of beating a couple of defenders to the basket off the dribble.
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