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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#166 » by Badgerlander » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:13 pm

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Post#167 » by Garbs_7 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:23 pm

Another solid win, Jennings looked really in control and in charge the whole time he was on the court, Sanders has just been great and Tobias is a big boy up close... Pacers are awful
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Post#168 » by emunney » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:25 pm

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Post#169 » by emunney » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:27 pm

This was a great play by Monta.

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Post#170 » by JimmyTheKid » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:29 pm

Max Green wrote:@ MIA
vs. CHI
@ CHI
vs. NYK

Man, that's a brutal stretch. I'd be really happy finishing 2-2.


I never like looking ahead on the schedule or projecting wins and losses. Its pointless. In every professional sport. Because any team can beat any other team on any given night. But I especially hate it in regards to the Bucks. Why? Because before the season, everyone gives their projected W/L record, which is fine. But after, say a strong start, the folks who projected doom and gloom for the season will always have an excuse for a Bucks' win. You'll see "well, yeah, they're 7-2 but New Orleans sucks, Charlotte sucks, Granger was out for the Pacers, Holiday was in foul trouble for the Sixers, Boston just had a bad game, the Lakers are having a down year, the entire East sucks.... and on and on and on. Or if the Bucks lose at home on Saturday, you'll see a lot of: "thats why you don't throw a party after 7 games....toooooold you" Pretty soon, the only chance at a "quality" win is against the Heat or Thunder. But these are the same folks who had the Bucks at 32-50 before the season. So how can any Bucks win be diminished in any way if they're already one of the worst teams in basketball? Thats why every year I give the Bucks a clean slate and take it game by game. Don't let years of Bucks frustration prevent you from enjoying this season.
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Post#171 » by Garbs_7 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:30 pm

Was great being at the game too in good seats block 227. Amazing experience and got to see a good win.
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#172 » by Steve210 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:21 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
Max Green wrote:@ MIA
vs. CHI
@ CHI
vs. NYK

Man, that's a brutal stretch. I'd be really happy finishing 2-2.


I never like looking ahead on the schedule or projecting wins and losses. Its pointless. In every professional sport. Because any team can beat any other team on any given night. But I especially hate it in regards to the Bucks. Why? Because before the season, everyone gives their projected W/L record, which is fine. But after, say a strong start, the folks who projected doom and gloom for the season will always have an excuse for a Bucks' win. You'll see "well, yeah, they're 7-2 but New Orleans sucks, Charlotte sucks, Granger was out for the Pacers, Holiday was in foul trouble for the Sixers, Boston just had a bad game, the Lakers are having a down year, the entire East sucks.... and on and on and on. Or if the Bucks lose at home on Saturday, you'll see a lot of: "thats why you don't throw a party after 7 games....toooooold you" Pretty soon, the only chance at a "quality" win is against the Heat or Thunder. But these are the same folks who had the Bucks at 32-50 before the season. So how can any Bucks win be diminished in any way if they're already one of the worst teams in basketball? Thats why every year I give the Bucks a clean slate and take it game by game. Don't let years of Bucks frustration prevent you from enjoying this season.


I agree 100%, all of us Bucks fans have witnessed a lot of bad basketball, some of us have witnessed a lot more than others. We all tend to have players we like, and players we don't like, and I see so much arguing and defending one's view points that I think some people start to miss the big picture. 5-2 is WAY TOO EARLY to get too excited, but it's not too early to be cautiously optimistic about the season. Let's enjoy this good start, and hope they can keep things rolling!

On a side note, I'm not quite sure how to feel for the Warriors fans right now? I'm just happy that we aren't the ones sitting around waiting for the next Andrew Bogut injury update. I like Andrew, and think he's class act and a quality guy, but I just don't think he's ever going to be the same player he was prior the elbow injury. Now he has the ankle injury, and it's always something, some on here rip the trade, some debate back and forth how we could have got more, blah blah, I'm just glad the organization has moved on in another direction, and so far so good.
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#173 » by AussieBuck » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:39 pm

DocHoliday wrote:
emunney wrote: #1 defensive rebounding


This is the stunning part, we were awful last year in def rebs

Imagine how good our rebounding would be if we traded Udoh!!!!!!
aol4532 wrote:what exactly is the difference between him (Bill Russell), and say a guy like Ryan Hollins, who is 20 lbs heavier and can get his head over the rim? He would get in foul trouble so quick, just trying to hold position.
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#174 » by AussieBuck » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:42 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:On a different note, simple +/- through 7:

Godleavy: +101
Sanders: +42
Udoh: +33
Ellis: +25
Udrih: +19
Daniels: +14
Jennings: +6
Henson: -7
Gorilla: -24
Ilyasova: -28
Dalembert: -36
Lamb: -40
Harris: -70


Harris -70... I like +/- but like any stat, its worthless on its own.

Harris plays pretty much exclusively with the starting unit and Dunleavy with the bench guys. It's just a good representation of how we are playing to start the first and third quarters.
aol4532 wrote:what exactly is the difference between him (Bill Russell), and say a guy like Ryan Hollins, who is 20 lbs heavier and can get his head over the rim? He would get in foul trouble so quick, just trying to hold position.
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#175 » by Badgerlander » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:45 pm

AussieBuck wrote:
DocHoliday wrote:
emunney wrote: #1 defensive rebounding


This is the stunning part, we were awful last year in def rebs

Imagine how good our rebounding would be if we traded Udoh!!!!!!

Yeah Gooden is a better rebounder
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Post#176 » by KeyRabbit » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:54 pm

Better outlet passes for sure
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#177 » by AussieBuck » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:55 pm

DocHoliday wrote:Yeah Gooden is a better rebounder

I was going to continue this joke by posting their career rebounding rates but it turns out Gooden doesn't even exist when you check out our team for this season on basketball reference. Hooray for him not getting a second of game time. :D
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#178 » by -Jragon- » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:47 pm

AussieBuck wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:On a different note, simple +/- through 7:

Godleavy: +101
Sanders: +42
Udoh: +33
Ellis: +25
Udrih: +19
Daniels: +14
Jennings: +6
Henson: -7
Gorilla: -24
Ilyasova: -28
Dalembert: -36
Lamb: -40
Harris: -70


Harris -70... I like +/- but like any stat, its worthless on its own.

Harris plays pretty much exclusively with the starting unit and Dunleavy with the bench guys. It's just a good representation of how we are playing to start the first and third quarters.



I think the top 5 guys on there play well together. Last night during the 2nd, I believe, that lineup was playing and someone (I think it was J. Mac) slipped and said nice lineup right after the commercial break than quickly changed the subject. lol But yeah, that was a good segment of basketball: offense, hustle, passing and shot making.

Ellis's +/- surprised me a little bit with how high it was (because of his perceived defensive flaws), but he is such a threat on offense that he is dangerous wherever he has the ball on the floor and gets to the paint skillfully at will.
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#179 » by Down To Buck » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:45 pm

Sadly I missed the game, I like seeing games where we actually play well and get to play the scrubs. John Henson is gonna be a beast. But he has to learn not to shoot it every time. :lol:
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Post#180 » by randy84 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:59 pm

Authority wrote:Sadly I missed the game, I like seeing games where we actually play well and get to play the scrubs. John Henson is gonna be a beast. But he has to learn not to shoot it every time. :lol:


He has to make the most of his 7 mins of playing time.
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#181 » by randy84 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:01 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:Pacer fans melting down at this thread.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread. ... s-Postgame

Fire the coach, tank, Hibbert a bum now that he got paid, trade West for Monta, etc. We can't win with Granger injured. It all sounds oh so familiar.


Hibbert 9 games in is putting up 8/8 at 38% from the field and 40% from the line in 30mpg. Saying he's been a bum this season is a MASSIVE understatement, I'd have to do a little research but he might have been the worst established starter in the league so far.

If he doesn't turn it around like instantly they are in big trouble.


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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#182 » by paul » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:52 pm

Max Green wrote:@ MIA
vs. CHI
@ CHI
vs. NYK

Man, that's a brutal stretch. I'd be really happy finishing 2-2.


Brutal? Miami obviously but both Chicago (without Rose) and New York are extremely beatable. I'm hoping for 2-2 out of that, 1-3 would be very disappointing, 0-4 obviously horrible.

I was just looking at our schedule for the real 'brutal' stretch and honestly it never really comes, March would seem to be our toughest month but it's nice not to have the horror run we've had a few times the last few years. Hopefully we can be way in front of .500 when we get there.
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#183 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:00 am

Steve210 wrote:............. 5-2 is WAY TOO EARLY to get too excited, but it's not too early to be cautiously optimistic about the season. Let's enjoy this good start, and hope they can keep things rolling!
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its never to early to get way over excited bro :D
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#184 » by Max Green » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:06 am

paul wrote:
Max Green wrote:@ MIA
vs. CHI
@ CHI
vs. NYK

Man, that's a brutal stretch. I'd be really happy finishing 2-2.


Brutal? Miami obviously but both Chicago (without Rose) and New York are extremely beatable. I'm hoping for 2-2 out of that, 1-3 would be very disappointing, 0-4 obviously horrible.

I was just looking at our schedule for the real 'brutal' stretch and honestly it never really comes, March would seem to be our toughest month but it's nice not to have the horror run we've had a few times the last few years. Hopefully we can be way in front of .500 when we get there.


We haven't beat Chicago since the 09/10 season, they are still very good and own us with or without Rose. New York is the second best team in the East and awesome defensively. Playing the 4 games in a row against the top 3 teams in the East with one of them being the defending champs and the best team in the league qualifies as brutal us.
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Re: PG: Pacers @ Bucks 

Post#185 » by paul » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:10 am

New York really, really aren't the second best team in the East. Not imo anyway. It's a tougher stretch of games for sure.

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