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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#16 » by paulpressey25 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:38 am

CanadaBucks wrote:Not that the Suns would but do people change their minds if you change one of Harris/Henson for Dally and maybe our 1st??


No.

We don't need Gortat. We've got Sammy for the grind it game and the Larry/Udoh show for the balance of the game. I'll take that three headed monster over most other center options save for the star guys like Dwight.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#17 » by stellation » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:40 am

Blurgh! No way any sane person for Milwaukee does that trade, so obviously a fair chance it happens.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#18 » by Badgerlander » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:41 am

Hell no
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#19 » by bullox » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:43 am

So I take it Hollinger is a Suns fan?
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Post#20 » by worthlessBucks » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:43 am

Very much no John.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#21 » by BUCKnation » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:48 am

Thats worse than a BR trade idea.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#22 » by paul » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:49 am

paulpressey25 wrote:This tells me that Hollinger doesn't watch any of our games.

We don't have Bogut so the media figures that ourz centerz positionz must be the sucks.....

Uh John, crunch some of your numbers in the Scantron 4000 and you'd probably figure out that our center position is out producing the Suns center position.


Add to that the fact that Gortat scored 15 PPGZ last season playing with Nash and you've got a no brain upgrade in the national media's eyes.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#23 » by fam3381 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:50 am

paulpressey25 wrote:This tells me that Hollinger doesn't watch any of our games.


That's probably because Hollinger didn't even write the story--I'd suggest changing the thread title to avoid further confusion. It's ESPN Insider, but was written by someone named Joe Kaiser:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... gortat-nba
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#24 » by coolhandluke121 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:50 am

I'm usually one of the tankingest youth-oriented guys on here, but given the way the team has played I'd probably be more willing than most here to give up a young guy like Harris or Henson for a good veteran. This trade doesn't cut it though. Not even close.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#25 » by EastSideBucksFan » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:58 am

I'd trade Udoh & Dalembert for Gortat, but not trading Henson, Harris or Sanders.
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Post#26 » by SupremeHustle » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:00 am

LUKE23 wrote:I would maim people if we made that trade.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#27 » by SupremeHustle » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:01 am

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wichmae wrote:I probably wouldnt do it either but some of you are really undervaluing how good Gortat is.


Has nothing to do with that though, has to do with staying with the direction of the team and developing the youth.

Also, Kendall Marshall stinks.


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Post#28 » by RiotPunch » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:02 am

Gortat should not be a target for this team. Just no.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#29 » by Bfinkish » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:04 am

paulpressey25 wrote:This tells me that Hollinger doesn't watch any of our games.

We don't have Bogut so the media figures that ourz centerz positionz must be the sucks.....

Uh John, crunch some of your numbers in the Scantron 4000 and you'd probably figure out that our center position is out producing the Suns center position.



this was exactly my thought. Hollinger clearly isn't watching any of our games. No way I'd do this. Tobes and henson are too interesting/valuable....
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#30 » by Bfinkish » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:05 am

fam3381 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:This tells me that Hollinger doesn't watch any of our games.


That's probably because Hollinger didn't even write the story--I'd suggest changing the thread title to avoid further confusion. It's ESPN Insider, but was written by someone named Joe Kaiser:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... gortat-nba



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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#31 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:10 am

Suns could do a lot better.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#32 » by LUKE23 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:11 am

DrugBust wrote:Suns could do a lot better.


If their goal is to get young talent for Gortat, then I highly doubt it.

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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#33 » by jeremyd236 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:11 am

I wouldn't like that deal at all, but what's the point in including Marshall and either Henson or Harris? We don't need another PG on this roster. If we HAD to do a trade like that, I'd rather leave Marshall and Harris out. Or I'd rather trade for a guy like Al Jefferson, who could be bought at a very low price compared to Gortat. But honestly, we shouldn't trade anyone until we start losing games.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#34 » by paul » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:13 am

DrugBust wrote:Suns could do a lot better.


I don't honestly believe that, but if I'm the Suns GM I'm trading Gortat yesterday.
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Re: Hollinger rumors/speculation 

Post#35 » by VooDoo7 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:17 am

H-E double hockey sticks NO!

Can't even put into words how pissed I'd be if we did this.
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