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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby Bucks_Pre on Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:59 pm

N8Frog wrote:I think the only way Ellis is not dealt is if we we're sitting like 29-22 or 30-21 at the break and are looking like a legit contender to do something in the playoffs. That would mean we'd have to go 9-4 or 10-3 through 2/13. With our inconsistencies, that is very unlikely.

It does sound like Ellis has value though, kind of surprised by that considering his #'s but maybe teams are figuring he's unhappy and/or just a bad fit here. I don't really think he's been a malcontent and he does play hard imo. His shooting numbers and shot selection are the biggest problems.



Not as unlikely as you might think. Looking at the schedule they might can get on a roll

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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby RandyBreuer on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:05 pm

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If Monta got to spend his time off the court basking in the valley of the sun he would truly have it all.
by xTitan on Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:55 p
Why would the Kings want Ellis? Perhaps you are just assuming they are dumb?

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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby giraldo5 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:05 pm

LUKE23 wrote:You'd deal Larry Sanders or John Henson for Kawhi Leonard? Wow.


I would yes. Wouldn't be thrilled ( especially Larry) about it with either but ultimately would. When's the last time the Bucks have had a wing who was good offensively, wasn't a chucker and had the ability to be a shutdown wing defender. Popovich raves about Leonard and there is no coach I respect more than him. I like Danny Green but I wouldn't really give up anything of value for him.

Henson for Leonard

Jennings, Dunleavy for Bledsoe


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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby jakecronus8 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:08 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:If the Bucks could get a Ersan/Gooden/Udoh for Gasol type deal they would be beyond stupid to not do it for salary purposes alone. Best case, you get two years of a re-energized Gasol. Worst case is he still sucks, and you have a massive expiring next season, while dumping your two albatross contracts, and opening up minutes for Henson. I could probably be convinced to throw in Harris for a late 1st to get the deal done too.


Why on Earth would Gasol be energize coming to the Milwaukee **** Bucks? If he wants out, it's to a legit contender in a nice location.


Because he despises the situation he's in now. If he came here, he could be the first or second option on offense potentially, and he'll want to prove he can still play.
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby BucksBrew on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:16 pm

Ok so i see alot a Gasol deals so i'll use to the last 1 I saw

Gasol
for
Ersan
Dalembert

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6207839

Now say we could pull this off in addition. Would you do it?
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6207846

Sanders
Gooden
Moute

For

Bosh

Gasol / Udoh
Bosh / Heson
Harris / Dunleavy
Ellis / Lamb/Daniels
Jenning / Udrih

Only reason i bring up Bosh is he seemed annoyed on the court last night and Miami my have to do something next year to get under the cap so maybe they pull the trigger this year. I dont think it's possible just a little pipe dream :)

If i did the math right that puts us at about 53 million next year if Ellis ops in say we get jennings at 4/48
65 million plus our draft picks unless we trade them and so we pay Tax one year then Gasol will come off the books

I dont know much about the Salary cap and all the numbers and rules but i could get down watching this team

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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby jakecronus8 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:18 pm

Jennings, Ellis, Harris for Rondo, Lee

Ersan, Gooden, Udoh, 2nd for Pau, Meeks

Rondo/Udrih
Meeks/Lee
Moute/Dunleavy
Gasol/Henson
Sanders/Dalembert

Go!
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby Nebula1 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:08 pm

DrugBust wrote:The Bucks finally have depth with youth and talent and people want to screw with it, displacing our best big in the process. If you were doing this for a guy like Aldridge I'd be on board. That's a nice fit. But not a 32 year old with knee tendinitis who'd be miserable in Milwaukee.

If I were hammond I'd do what I could to secure another lotto pick. If people consider this a week draft and want to move their picks, take advantage of it and try to land the SG the Bucks desperately need.
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby mlloyd10 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:28 pm

Im trying to think of a SG that might be available come Feb. Here is the list I came up with

Lee
Mayo
Matthews
Dudley
Korver


Would anybody want any of these?
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby Dr Positivity on Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:26 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:Im trying to think of a SG that might be available come Feb. Here is the list I came up with

Lee
Mayo
Matthews
Dudley
Korver


Would anybody want any of these?


What do you guys think of Monta for Derozan? You get a guy with a long contract who's friends with BJ
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby Baddy Chuck on Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:27 pm

We don't want any part of DeRozan's deal, especially for expirings.
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby AussieBuck on Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:53 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Im trying to think of a SG that might be available come Feb. Here is the list I came up with

Lee
Mayo
Matthews
Dudley
Korver


Would anybody want any of these?


What do you guys think of Monta for Derozan? You get a guy with a long contract who's friends with BJ

Hell no.
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby mlloyd10 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:55 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:We don't want any part of DeRozan's deal, especially for expirings.


Just curious, would you rather him or mayo next to jennings. I think Mayo will sign a deal similar to Derozan's 4/40
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby mattg on Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:12 pm

Honestly, neither. I'm surprised so many here like mayo that dislike Jennings, considering he's very much the same guy. Mayo is just a jump shooter that doesn't really contribute much else. I don't know how much of OJ some have seen, but its not like he's changed his style of play this year, he's just gotten the green light and minutes. He was massively hot shooting from 3 to start the year which is why his efficiency is good, but that's definitely not sustainable, and he's already had some major slumps too.
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby Baddy Chuck on Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:15 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:We don't want any part of DeRozan's deal, especially for expirings.


Just curious, would you rather him or mayo next to jennings. I think Mayo will sign a deal similar to Derozan's 4/40

At $10 mill plus, I don't want any part of either of them.
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Re: Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

Postby emunney on Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:27 pm

Yeah, I wanted to go after Mayo last offseason at a MLE contract because I felt he was available for it and would outperform it. Now that he's in a situation wherein somebody's going to shoot him with the money cannon, no thanks.
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