ImageImage

Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension

Moderators: MickeyDavis, paulpressey25

User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 66,380
And1: 1,955
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#1 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:18 pm

Thought this deserved it's own thread. If I read the tweet wrong, feel free to delete.

1250 WSSP ‏@1250WSSP
John Hammond RT @jpcadorin: "The senator and I are in the process of working out an extension for me"
Trade Impact:

Before: 30-23, 104.4 O, 102.2 D, 93.9 Pace, 1.42 SRS, .547 TS, .154 TOV
Now: 36-36, 102.8 O, 102.4 D, 93.8 Pace, -.16 SRS, .537 TS, .156 TOV
MCW Per 36 w/MIL: 15.9 PTS, 4.2 REB, 6.5 AST, 2.2 STL, 3.9 TO, .482 TS, .257 USG, .188 TOV
User avatar
wichmae
RealGM
Posts: 13,164
And1: 302
Joined: Feb 22, 2005
Location: Milwaukee

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#2 » by wichmae » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:19 pm

Wow. Things change and stay the same all at once.
User avatar
europa
RealGM
Posts: 44,901
And1: 462
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
Location: Right Behind You

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#3 » by europa » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:19 pm

Not surprised. Hammond toppled Skiles. But did he sell his soul to Kohl in the process?
Nothing will not break me.
User avatar
Nebula1
RealGM
Posts: 23,801
And1: 620
Joined: Aug 06, 2005
Location: Underground King
   

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#4 » by Nebula1 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:21 pm

Great news imo. Hammond is about to reboot the Bucks franchise.

I know most here don't like him, but I think most will be singing a different tune by this time next season.
Terrence Jones | Jimbo Harden
User avatar
jr lucosa
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 11,321
And1: 747
Joined: Jul 11, 2008
       

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#5 » by jr lucosa » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:22 pm

europa wrote:Not surprised. Hammond toppled Skiles. But did he sell his soul to Kohl in the process?


We'll find out this deadline and following off-season IMO.

If Hammond gets to do things his way this could be very good news, again IMO.
Image
User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 66,380
And1: 1,955
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#6 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:23 pm

I guess I don't see how this can be portrayed as good news.
Trade Impact:

Before: 30-23, 104.4 O, 102.2 D, 93.9 Pace, 1.42 SRS, .547 TS, .154 TOV
Now: 36-36, 102.8 O, 102.4 D, 93.8 Pace, -.16 SRS, .537 TS, .156 TOV
MCW Per 36 w/MIL: 15.9 PTS, 4.2 REB, 6.5 AST, 2.2 STL, 3.9 TO, .482 TS, .257 USG, .188 TOV
User avatar
Nebula1
RealGM
Posts: 23,801
And1: 620
Joined: Aug 06, 2005
Location: Underground King
   

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#7 » by Nebula1 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:24 pm

I desperately hope he gets new uniforms for the squad.
Terrence Jones | Jimbo Harden
User avatar
europa
RealGM
Posts: 44,901
And1: 462
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
Location: Right Behind You

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#8 » by europa » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:25 pm

Nebula1 wrote:I desperately hope he gets new uniforms for the squad.


The uni's the Thunder wore last night were slick.
Nothing will not break me.
User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 66,380
And1: 1,955
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#9 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:26 pm

Hopefully there is a stipulation in his next deal that he has to win a playoff series within a decade on the job.
Trade Impact:

Before: 30-23, 104.4 O, 102.2 D, 93.9 Pace, 1.42 SRS, .547 TS, .154 TOV
Now: 36-36, 102.8 O, 102.4 D, 93.8 Pace, -.16 SRS, .537 TS, .156 TOV
MCW Per 36 w/MIL: 15.9 PTS, 4.2 REB, 6.5 AST, 2.2 STL, 3.9 TO, .482 TS, .257 USG, .188 TOV
User avatar
jr lucosa
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 11,321
And1: 747
Joined: Jul 11, 2008
       

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#10 » by jr lucosa » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:27 pm

LUKE23 wrote:I guess I don't see how this can be portrayed as good news.


He totally wants to tank, and I would hope has been telling Kohl "see how what we're doing isn't working?". Or maybe Kohl thinks he's assembled a good winning roster and just needs a new coach, and Hammond just wants to keep the job no matter what.

Time will tell.
Image
User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 42,171
And1: 1,323
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
 

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#11 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:27 pm

Horrible news. Hammond convinced Monty Burns that Skiles was the problem. Good Lord.
If the Cincinnati Reds were really the first major league baseball team, who did they play?
User avatar
europa
RealGM
Posts: 44,901
And1: 462
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
Location: Right Behind You

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#12 » by europa » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:28 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Horrible news. Hammond convinced Monty Burns that Skiles was the problem. Good Lord.


Or Skiles pushed too hard and Kohl told him enough's enough. Or both.
Nothing will not break me.
User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 66,380
And1: 1,955
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#13 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:28 pm

jr lucosa wrote:
He totally wants to tank, and I would hope has been telling Kohl "see how what we're doing isn't working?". Or maybe Kohl thinks he's assembled a good winning roster and just needs a new coach, and Hammond just wants to keep the job no matter what.

Time will tell.


What evidence is there that he totally wants to tank?
Trade Impact:

Before: 30-23, 104.4 O, 102.2 D, 93.9 Pace, 1.42 SRS, .547 TS, .154 TOV
Now: 36-36, 102.8 O, 102.4 D, 93.8 Pace, -.16 SRS, .537 TS, .156 TOV
MCW Per 36 w/MIL: 15.9 PTS, 4.2 REB, 6.5 AST, 2.2 STL, 3.9 TO, .482 TS, .257 USG, .188 TOV
User avatar
jr lucosa
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 11,321
And1: 747
Joined: Jul 11, 2008
       

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#14 » by jr lucosa » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:29 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
jr lucosa wrote:
He totally wants to tank, and I would hope has been telling Kohl "see how what we're doing isn't working?". Or maybe Kohl thinks he's assembled a good winning roster and just needs a new coach, and Hammond just wants to keep the job no matter what.

Time will tell.


What evidence is there that he totally wants to tank?


Nearly every quote I've read from him the last year +, I'll try to dig some up.
Image
User avatar
Nebula1
RealGM
Posts: 23,801
And1: 620
Joined: Aug 06, 2005
Location: Underground King
   

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#15 » by Nebula1 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:30 pm

europa wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:I desperately hope he gets new uniforms for the squad.


The uni's the Thunder wore last night were slick.


Yeah they got the hook up right now and I like the uniforms the Rockets have been using lately with the Red/Yellow.. they looked great in Cleveland.

Image

I'm hoping part of the reboot will be new uniform schemes. I'm in the minority, but I've always hoped the Bucks would ditch the green/red and go green/gold and look similar to the Sonics/Packers. Regardless, the Bucks uniforms are the worst in the NBA.
Terrence Jones | Jimbo Harden
User avatar
notoriousTJ11
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,363
And1: 3
Joined: Jun 08, 2003
Location: Morrison Hotel

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#16 » by notoriousTJ11 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:30 pm

This is what happens when the lunatics (Steinmiller and co.) run the asylum and why our franchise has been garbage for over a decade
User avatar
ReasonablySober
RealGM
Posts: 57,015
And1: 3,276
Joined: Dec 02, 2001
Location: Cheap dinner. Watch basketball. Bone down.
Contact:
       

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#17 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:30 pm

Haven't you guys been telling me that Hammond is actually smart and knows that tanking is the way to go but he simply wasn't able to?

Maybe the Senator's mind has changed after witnessing how futile it is to 'win-now'. Perhaps it's become evident that the Bucks need a rebuild, and the reason Skiles was let-go is it became apparent he wasn't the right guy to coach a young rebuilding squad?

It would make sense.
User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 42,171
And1: 1,323
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
 

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#18 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:31 pm

europa wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Horrible news. Hammond convinced Monty Burns that Skiles was the problem. Good Lord.


Or Skiles pushed too hard and Kohl told him enough's enough. Or both.


That's probably true. I think both sides wanted to do this before the season. But Kohl hates paying guys for not working and Skiles didn't want to walk away from a few million. Doing it now makes sense for both of them.

Hell when Kohl finally fired Dunleavy as coach he kept him around in the front office because he wouldn't pay him off.
If the Cincinnati Reds were really the first major league baseball team, who did they play?
User avatar
worthlessBucks
RealGM
Posts: 15,872
And1: 803
Joined: Jan 26, 2005
Location: Still, somehow, reading Brandon Knight Criticisms.
   

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#19 » by worthlessBucks » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:31 pm

LOL.
"Don't give up Dudley!" - Sir Sid
TELL HIM HIS EYES SEE TOO CLEAR
Sam Hinkie is a Golden God. True RealGM
User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 66,380
And1: 1,955
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

Re: Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension 

Post#20 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:31 pm

I'd like to see a list of GM's that were extended after 5 seasons and being ~20 games or worse under .500, and how the next portion of their tenure unfolded.
Trade Impact:

Before: 30-23, 104.4 O, 102.2 D, 93.9 Pace, 1.42 SRS, .547 TS, .154 TOV
Now: 36-36, 102.8 O, 102.4 D, 93.8 Pace, -.16 SRS, .537 TS, .156 TOV
MCW Per 36 w/MIL: 15.9 PTS, 4.2 REB, 6.5 AST, 2.2 STL, 3.9 TO, .482 TS, .257 USG, .188 TOV

Return to Milwaukee Bucks