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Post#1 How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:43 pm by D-BE-LAW

Im not a milwaukee fan, but his stats look pretty good for his minutes, and he gets a good amount of blocked shots. How is the eye test on this guy, and do you think he deserves more minutes?
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Post#2 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:46 pm by ReasonablySober

Incredible defensive presence often mitigated by no discernable ability on offense. Sanders and Udoh should be splitting the center minutes, the challenge being finding combinations of players to team them with that makes their lack of offense less of an issue.
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Post#3 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:46 pm by A Diddy2231

Larry Sanders is the next Bill Russell
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Post#4 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:48 pm by LUKE23

Ibaka with less offensive polish and arguably slightly more defensive impact.
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Post#5 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:50 pm by Baddy Chuck

LUKE23 wrote:Ibaka with less offensive polish and arguably slightly more defensive impact.

That's the understatement of the year.
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Post#6 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:51 pm by Baddy Chuck

DrugBust wrote:Sanders and Udoh should be splitting the center minutes

I think Sanders should clearly be getting more minutes then Udoh at center.
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Post#7 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:51 pm by Turd Ferguson

An incredibly softer version of everything every poster has stated here.
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Post#8 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:52 pm by LUKE23

Ibaka is a better offensive player now without question. Although Sanders vs. Ibaka's year 3 numbers are very similar in terms of PPG/efficiency.

Ibaka: 12.1 ppg @ .556 TS
Sanders: 11.7 ppg @ .556 TS

Admittedly, Ibaka has made a pretty decent year 4 leap (16.4 ppg @ .614 TS). Hopefully Larry can make a similar leap despite being 2 years older in terms of respective years.
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Post#9 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:53 pm by LUKE23

Turd Ferguson wrote:An incredibly softer version of everything every poster has stated here.


That's probably one of the last words I'd use to describe Sanders. No idea what you're watching.
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Post#10 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:53 pm by withbucksin68

He's a knucklehead that's in love with himself.
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Post#11 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:54 pm by Baddy Chuck

LUKE23 wrote:Ibaka is a better offensive player now without question. Although Sanders vs. Ibaka's year 3 numbers are very similar in terms of PPG/efficiency.

Ibaka: 12.1 ppg @ .556 TS
Sanders: 11.7 ppg @ .556 TS

Admittedly, Ibaka has made a pretty decent year 4 leap (16.4 ppg @ .614 TS). Hopefully Larry can make a similar leap despite being 2 years older in terms of respective years.

I mean, look at Ibaka percetanges throughout his career outside of the paint. He has a very good jumper, Sanders does not. Both are garbage guys in the paint but Ibaka is a much more rounded player on offense.
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Post#12 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:55 pm by europa

Baddy Chuck wrote:
DrugBust wrote:Sanders and Udoh should be splitting the center minutes

I think Sanders should clearly be getting more minutes then Udoh at center.


Yup. He should be getting 30-35 if he can avoid foul trouble. Udoh can take the rest. This shouldn't be an even split. Sanders is much better.
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Post#13 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:55 pm by Turd Ferguson

LUKE23 wrote:
Turd Ferguson wrote:An incredibly softer version of everything every poster has stated here.


That's probably one of the last words I'd use to describe Sanders. No idea what you're watching.


Every single player in our frontcourt is soft.
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Post#14 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:56 pm by JBucks

A grossly overrated player who looks good on the Bucks because they have the least amount of talent in the league. Also, bound to be paid by newly minted John Hammond with a $60 million contract.
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Post#15 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:56 pm by europa

I said last season I thought Sanders could follow a similar trajectory that Ibaka enjoyed and nobody agreed with me. :(
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Post#16 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:57 pm by LUKE23

Baddy Chuck wrote:I mean, look at Ibaka percetanges throughout his career outside of the paint. He has a very good jumper, Sanders does not. Both are garbage guys in the paint but Ibaka is a much more rounder player on offense.


As of today, I'd agree. I believe his jumper has improved between year 3 and year 4 though.
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Post#17 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:57 pm by LUKE23

Turd Ferguson wrote:
Every single player in our frontcourt is soft.


:rofl: :rofl:
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Post#18 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:58 pm by JBucks

Turd Ferguson wrote:Every single player in our frontcourt is soft.


Pretty much. EDIT: let me qualify this. Sanders can sometimes play tough but is too dumb to harness it into anything resembling an advantage.
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Post#19 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:58 pm by LUKE23

JBucks wrote:A grossly overrated player who looks good on the Bucks because they have the least amount of talent in the league. Also, bound to be paid by newly minted John Hammond with a $60 million contract.


This really isn't true. If you want to include the backcourt in the above, I won't argue. But Sanders being near the lead league in blocks and defensive rating has little to do with how bad the Bucks are.

There seems to be a mentality from some that says, Bucks = bad, therefore, every Bucks player = bad. Not how it works.
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Post#20 Re: How good is Larry Sanders
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:58 pm by Turd Ferguson

europa wrote:I said last season I thought Sanders could follow a similar trajectory that Ibaka enjoyed and nobody agreed with me. :(


I still don't see Larry making a jump to that level of discipline, coordination, and ability to finish around the rim. Although there are things Larry excels at now at a higher rate than Ibaka, I'd probably put Ibaka as one floor above Larry's ultimate ceiling. Here's to hoping Larry proves me wrong.
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