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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby LUKE23 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:I mean, look at Ibaka percetanges throughout his career outside of the paint. He has a very good jumper, Sanders does not. Both are garbage guys in the paint but Ibaka is a much more rounder player on offense.


As of today, I'd agree. I believe his jumper has improved between year 3 and year 4 though.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby LUKE23 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Turd Ferguson wrote:
Every single player in our frontcourt is soft.


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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby JBucks on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:58 pm

Turd Ferguson wrote:Every single player in our frontcourt is soft.


Pretty much. EDIT: let me qualify this. Sanders can sometimes play tough but is too dumb to harness it into anything resembling an advantage.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby LUKE23 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:58 pm

JBucks wrote:A grossly overrated player who looks good on the Bucks because they have the least amount of talent in the league. Also, bound to be paid by newly minted John Hammond with a $60 million contract.


This really isn't true. If you want to include the backcourt in the above, I won't argue. But Sanders being near the lead league in blocks and defensive rating has little to do with how bad the Bucks are.

There seems to be a mentality from some that says, Bucks = bad, therefore, every Bucks player = bad. Not how it works.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby Turd Ferguson on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:58 pm

europa wrote:I said last season I thought Sanders could follow a similar trajectory that Ibaka enjoyed and nobody agreed with me. :(


I still don't see Larry making a jump to that level of discipline, coordination, and ability to finish around the rim. Although there are things Larry excels at now at a higher rate than Ibaka, I'd probably put Ibaka as one floor above Larry's ultimate ceiling. Here's to hoping Larry proves me wrong.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby europa on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:00 pm

Turd Ferguson wrote:
europa wrote:I said last season I thought Sanders could follow a similar trajectory that Ibaka enjoyed and nobody agreed with me. :(


I still don't see Larry making a jump to that level of discipline, coordination, and ability to finish around the rim. Although there are things Larry excels at now at a higher rate than Ibaka, I'd probably put Ibaka as one floor above Larry's ultimate ceiling. Here's to hoping Larry proves me wrong.


I'm not sure it happens either but I do think Sanders has quality offensive potential. I think he has good form on his jumper, for example. But it seems like the further away from the basket he gets the looser his game becomes. Because of that, I'm not sure he'll master that aspect of his game or develop it the way Ibaka has. But I do think the potential is there.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby Baddy Chuck on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:03 pm

I like Sanders, but I don't think he has much offensive potential. He's much more DeAndre Jordan on offense then Ibaka.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby Turd Ferguson on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:04 pm

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Turd Ferguson wrote:
europa wrote:I said last season I thought Sanders could follow a similar trajectory that Ibaka enjoyed and nobody agreed with me. :(


I still don't see Larry making a jump to that level of discipline, coordination, and ability to finish around the rim. Although there are things Larry excels at now at a higher rate than Ibaka, I'd probably put Ibaka as one floor above Larry's ultimate ceiling. Here's to hoping Larry proves me wrong.


I'm not sure it happens either but I do think Sanders has quality offensive potential. I think he has good form on his jumper, for example. But it seems like the further away from the basket he gets the looser his game becomes. Because of that, I'm not sure he'll master that aspect of his game or develop it the way Ibaka has. But I do think the potential is there.


Like I said, the potential is there, but with I just don't see him putting everything together and being as complete a player as Ibaka currently is. I still see him improving somewhat (assuming no string of in-game meltdowns on his part) over the next 1-2 years, where I do see Ibaka kind of staying at/dropping off ever so slightly from his numbers that he's currently putting up offensively. Larry's got a long way to go to get to that level, but I really like his game so far, and would look to extend him on something reasonable, even if this season were his actual ceiling.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby A Diddy2231 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:04 pm

To the guys who hate Sanders..do you hate him because of how he likes to showboat from time to time? If so, then get bent..it's good to have a player with some heart
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby Nebula1 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:13 pm

When Sanders came into the League he was always looking for his offense and would even shoot the jumper. Even though he was not effective, Skiles has crushed that part of his game ala Andrew Bogut to the point where he no longer even looks for it.

I'm a big fan of Larry Sanders no different than the majority here.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby BUCKnation on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:28 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:I like Sanders, but I don't think he has much offensive potential. He's much more DeAndre Jordan on offense then Ibaka.

Yep. I think he could be a better version of Jordan, since he has become a decent free throw shooter and is already better at defense according to his stats. He just needs to stay on the floor 30+ min. every night and limit his jumper use to an absolute minimum.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby MasterChef on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:52 pm

Sanders rules. I see him and Henson becoming the face of this franchise for a few years if they can play at the top of their game. He just needs to obtain more offensive skills and learn to take care of his **** dogs :-?
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby midranger on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:52 pm

Did someone honestly just blame Bogut's inability to shoot a basketball on Scott Skiles?
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby midranger on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:54 pm

europa wrote:I said last season I thought Sanders could follow a similar trajectory that Ibaka enjoyed and nobody agreed with me. :(


He was the one guy I was excited for this year. I think he's pretty darned good, despite the inconsistencies.
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Re: How good is Larry Sanders

Postby Nebula1 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:07 pm

midranger wrote:Did someone honestly just blame Bogut's inability to shoot a basketball on Scott Skiles?



Not blaming anybody, just saying that similar to Bogut, Sanders looked for his offense and then stopped doing so. Obviously Skiles wasn't there at the beginning for Bogut.
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