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Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:50 am
by Baddy Chuck
ampd wrote:
CanadaBucks wrote:Nice to have a C that can run the floor. That one handed oop was sick.


Jennings is actually a decent lob passer, if we actually ran an offense, perhaps we could use that somehow

I'd pretty much argue most lobs come off penetration by your PG, someone Jennings is not good at. Our offense is a problem, but that may also be on Jennings just as much as anyone.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:50 am
by ReddWing
I'd agree with Sparky but Skiles wanted nothing to do with this team. He had to go.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:52 am
by CanadaBucks
I'm going to the game on Sunday so I'm getting pumped for that, hopefully the 2 games in between don't dampen my enthusiasm.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:53 am
by EastSideBucksFan
Was Boylan sober tonight? His face is usually red. Literally. Not tonight though.


Really happy with the final product although we started out disjointed a bit. Love the starting lineup. I always like the chemistry and passing between Moute and Ersan. Those two always work well together.

Sanders was beasting tonight. He's definitely going to continue to get himself in trouble with his flair. Rocking the rim tonight should've easily been a tech. When he put his hand up after that one block sailed into the stands it kind of looked like he was saluting.

I kind of want to nickname him "The Captain"

John Henson was fantastic. Kid just has a ton of basketball talent. Was really happy to watch him and Larry share the floor at the end of the first quarter. Jennings was finding them both for alley ooops above the rim. Can't remember the last time the Bucks had frontcourt players that could play like that. Plus Henson has got post moves. He's the one that can really open things up for shooters. Get Tobias out there too and it might actually look like the Bucks have some action in the post on offense.

Hopefully the Bucks continue to share the ball and play defense.

Tomorrow night will be Boylan's Revenge!

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:54 am
by step3profit
Baddy Chuck wrote:I'd pretty much argue most lobs come off penetration by your PG, someone Jennings is not good at. Our offense is a problem, but that may also be on Jennings just as much as anyone.


I think more are on the fast break than off penetration. I've always been surprised we don't see more of them with all the blocking the team has.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:04 am
by Baddy Chuck
step3profit wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:I'd pretty much argue most lobs come off penetration by your PG, someone Jennings is not good at. Our offense is a problem, but that may also be on Jennings just as much as anyone.


I think more are on the fast break than off penetration. I've always been surprised we don't see more of them with all the blocking the team has.

Well sure fastbreaks are a part, but he always brings up how we'd see all these lobs if we ran an offense. Fastbreaks really aren't part of your X's and O's offense unless you run something like Golden State for a while. Lobs from your offense like you see in LA come from pick and rolls or penetration by your point guard, two huge holes in Jennings' game.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:04 am
by bigkurty
What is scary is that Monta seems to be gradually getting worse this season. If we plan on trading him, we better do it soon before his value keeps getting lower.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:07 am
by paulpressey25
Yeah, agree with Baddy. The reason lobs work is because of the PG. Go back to that Clippers game. Chris Paul comes into the lane and causes absolute mayhem as the defense comes out to stop him. It then frees Blake and Jordan to roll to the hoop. And Paul hits them with perfect passes.

Until Jennings learns how to enter the top of the key on the dribble and stay under control, we won't have the lob be a major weapon for our team.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:13 am
by ampd
paulpressey25 wrote:Yeah, agree with Baddy. The reason lobs work is because of the PG. Go back to that Clippers game. Chris Paul comes into the lane and causes absolute mayhem as the defense comes out to stop him. It then frees Blake and Jordan to roll to the hoop. And Paul hits them with perfect passes.

Until Jennings learns how to enter the top of the key on the dribble and stay under control, we won't have the lob be a major weapon for our team.


I don't expect Jennings to become Chris Paul, and i'm definitely not saying that we ought to expect anything like what the Clippers do. But I do think that with some structure to the offense Jennings might be able to benefit a bit since he would know what to expect in some situations which could at least theoretically improve his decision making.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:21 am
by humanrefutation
So begins the post-firing bump in play. I'll check back in two weeks.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:22 am
by blazza18
Caller calls in to the post game show and calls for Gooden to start and calls him a good player. OMG people are stupid.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:22 am
by DanoMac
blazza18 wrote:Caller calls in to the post game show and calls for Gooden to start and calls him a good player. OMG people are stupid.


Just heard that. Guy sounded like he was on LSD. "Drew Gooden's a really good player man".

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:24 am
by DanoMac
LMFAO the same caller "the rumor I heard today was Brandon Jennings going to Sacramento for Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins". GOOD LORD

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:24 am
by BUCKnation
blazza18 wrote:Caller calls in to the post game show and calls for Gooden to start and calls him a good player. OMG people are stupid.

Lol, now he said he heard a rumor today about Jennings for Cousins and Evans

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:25 am
by DanoMac
DanoMac wrote:LMFAO the same caller "the rumor I heard today was Brandon Jennings going to Sacramento for Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins". GOOD LORD


The same guy is on the phone. He just asked "Well...couldn't you trade Monta Ellis for both of them?"

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:25 am
by worthlessBucks
DanoMac wrote:LMFAO the same caller "the rumor I heard today was Brandon Jennings going to Sacramento for Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins". GOOD LORD

I have my sources man, don't hate.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:26 am
by BUCKnation
I usually will disregard anybody who recommends playing Gooden but that call was amazing.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:31 am
by jimmybones
1250 was driving me nuts all day with the OMGZ maybe this means Dalembert and Gooden will play!!1!@

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:34 am
by Baddy Chuck
jimmybones wrote:1250 was driving me nuts all day with the OMGZ maybe this means Dalembert and Gooden will play!!1!@

Really like the guy, but that starts with Sparky. Him calling for Gooden earlier and Dalembert now is pretty weird.

Re: PG: Boylan first Bucks coach to win debut since 2007

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:34 am
by GHOSTofSIKMA
im interested to see how jennings plays in a non skiles coached team offesively. im optimistic. ive stated i felt it may have been an issue in the past and tonight his play looked promising. he needs to play loose to play well and this change may help.

ellis, dunleavy, dalembert, and benos talent and/or cap space needs to net us a legit wing scorer below the age of 27. that is the gig. right there. thats what this team needs and im good. if we cant go get one, or better yet get a bunch of picks for those guys and draft one.... then wtf.

we can roll with that guy, whoever or wherever the hell he is, with.......

jennings
lamb
mam, harris
ersan, henson
sanders, udoh

......and im good. id be good for awhile.