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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#241 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:41 pm

OKC is on pace to go 64-18 with the largest PPG differential since the 2007-08 Celtics.

Durant putting up 29.5 ppg @ .652 TS. :o
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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#242 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:43 pm

In regards to free throws, I think that is a conscious decision by the league to have more flow to the game. There have been a lot of instances this year where I've watched the Bucks crush some guy under the hoop and we get the benefit of the doubt. Some of that is the newly created reputation of a defensive team, but part of it I see as a decision by the league to keep things moving. Wade still gets his calls on the drive. He just doesn't necessarily get them if he rebounds the ball under the hoop and tries to go back up.
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Post#243 » by Badgerlander » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:52 pm

Chris Vernon ‏@ChrisVernonShow

official... there is the salary cap move... RT @SpearsNBAYahoo Grizzlies trade Speights, Selby and pick to Cavs for Lauer, source said.


I'm assuming that he means Leuer

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN

Deal would potentially save Grizzlies more than $4 million and take them below the luxury tax.


Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA

I believe Speights deal would leave Grizz about $100K over tax. Cavs can send cash to make up gap. Speights can veto deal (Bird Rights)
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Post#244 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:56 pm

That move ever so slightly pulls the Grizz under the lux tax for this season. And goes a long way towards keeping them under next season as well.

It still will be a challenge for them to add any players though and stay under the tax. Even a min salary guy.

But they obviously preferred this route to giving up Gay or Randolph.
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Post#245 » by worthlessBucks » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:04 pm

Thanks for being there, Cleveland. /Memphis

Great deal for them if it isn't vetoed. Selby is still only 21 and he lit up SL.
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Post#246 » by Badgerlander » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:04 pm

Chris Vernon ‏@ChrisVernonShow

Grizzlies source says the deal is Speights/Selby/ 2015 1st Round pick (Top 5 Protected) for Jon Leuer.


Cavs have a boatload of picks, this is why cap flexibility is important for small market teams.

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Cavaliers also get a second round pick in trade.

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Post#247 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:06 pm

Nice move for Cavs. Cavs now have three additional first rounders in next few years (Heat this year, Kings probably 2015-17, Grizzlies 2015).
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Before: 30-23, 104.4 O, 102.2 D, 93.9 Pace, 1.42 SRS, .547 TS, .154 TOV
Now: 41-40, 102.7 O, 102.1 D, 94.1 Pace, -.03 SRS, .536 TS, .155 TOV
MCW Per 36 w/MIL: 16.9 PTS, 4.6 REB, 6.6 AST, 2.4 STL, 3.8 TO, .499 TS, .259 USG, .184 TOV
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Post#248 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:10 pm

Wow. You know Gay and Randolph are off the table now, at least in salary dump deals.
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Post#249 » by Badgerlander » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:16 pm

@WindhorstESPN: Wayne Ellington also going to Cavs as part of deal. Will save Grizzlies $6 million, get them safely under tax line.


Wonder if they'll be able to keep Tony Allen this summer
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Post#250 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:36 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Nice move for Cavs. Cavs now have three additional first rounders in next few years (Heat this year, Kings probably 2015-17, Grizzlies 2015).


The value of cap space. You can always absorb contracts from a team over the tax. And then use said mid to late first for guys like Jrue Holiday Ty Lawson.
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Post#251 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:03 pm

Get pissed when I see moves like this. Bucks should be doing things like this, but instead we bring in penisbags like Stephen Jackson, Maggette, and move back in the draft. Just your daily reminder that the Bucks are a **** of a franchise.
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Post#252 » by EastSideBucksFan » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:10 pm

I forsee a Pau Gasol & Josh Smith swap going down between Hawks & Lakers......Lakers are going to get some deal that will be much better than our Monta Ellis/Ersan offer.......Josh has been pining to play with Howard for years...they are good buddies.
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Post#253 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:14 pm

There is no way ATL adds $19M in 2013-14 salary. Their entire plan going into this year (and dropping JJ) was to load up to make runs at Dwight and/or Paul this summer.
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Before: 30-23, 104.4 O, 102.2 D, 93.9 Pace, 1.42 SRS, .547 TS, .154 TOV
Now: 41-40, 102.7 O, 102.1 D, 94.1 Pace, -.03 SRS, .536 TS, .155 TOV
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Post#254 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:15 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:I forsee a Pau Gasol & Josh Smith swap going down between Hawks & Lakers......Lakers are going to get some deal that will be much better than our Monta Ellis/Ersan offer.......Josh has been pining to play with Howard for years...they are good buddies.


I think Monta/Ersan is better than Josh Smith personally.

Also hearing a lot of media buzz the last 24 hours thinking the Lakers should trade Dwight and nab assets for him.
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Post#255 » by EastSideBucksFan » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:17 pm

LUKE23 wrote:There is no way ATL adds $19M in 2013-14 salary. Their entire plan going into this year (and dropping JJ) was to load up to make runs at Dwight and/or Paul this summer.



Their entire plan is a complete pipe dream.

Neither Dwight nor Chris Paul is leaving LA for Atlanta.
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Post#256 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:20 pm

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Their entire plan is a complete pipe dream.

Neither Dwight nor Chris Paul is leaving LA for Atlanta.


For one, nobody knows. Secondly, Atlanta is going to try, that is why they are currently holding the most cap space in the NBA. They aren't jeopardizing that in a year they aren't contending to add Pau and $19M on their cap. They currently can offer two max deals.

Also, both Paul and Howard are from the area, so it's not like it has zero chance of happening.
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Before: 30-23, 104.4 O, 102.2 D, 93.9 Pace, 1.42 SRS, .547 TS, .154 TOV
Now: 41-40, 102.7 O, 102.1 D, 94.1 Pace, -.03 SRS, .536 TS, .155 TOV
MCW Per 36 w/MIL: 16.9 PTS, 4.6 REB, 6.6 AST, 2.4 STL, 3.8 TO, .499 TS, .259 USG, .184 TOV
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Post#257 » by tski1972 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:20 pm

Jon Leuer is on his way to being the most traded player in NBA history.
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Post#258 » by CanadaBucks » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:26 pm

tski1972 wrote:Jon Leuer is on his way to being the most traded player in NBA history.



Perhaps playing with Gooden got him ready for it.
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Post#259 » by drew881 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:30 pm

So is watching the Lakers implode more fun this year than watching Detroit beat them in the finals when they had Payton and Malone? Its a tough call.
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Post#260 » by CanadaBucks » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:31 pm

drew881 wrote:So is watching the Lakers implode more fun this year than watching Detroit beat them in the finals when they had Payton and Malone? Its a tough call.



If they miss the playoffs this is better for sure.

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