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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#271 » by EastSideBucksFan » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:52 pm

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Worked out great for the Mavs.

Deron Williams is from Dallas.


What?

What does the Mavs situation have to do with the Hawks? Do you honestly think the Hawks are going to add $19M of Gasol for next year over at least trying to make a big splash? Why in the world would they do that?



Cap space.

Waiting & hoping for Deron Williams and Dwight Howard.

How are you not seeing the parallels?


Why would they take on $19M of Pau Gasol?

Because Josh Smith is going to walk this summer and they will be left with nothing when they fail to convince Dwight or Paul to leave money on the table to come to the Atlanta Hawks.

Pau Gasol is still considered an elite big men by people in this league (not on this forum though) and acquiring him would give them a shot to contend in the east.
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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#272 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:59 pm

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Cap space.

Waiting & hoping for Deron Williams and Dwight Howard.

How are you not seeing the parallels?


Why would they take on $19M of Pau Gasol?

Because Josh Smith is going to walk this summer and they will be left with nothing when they fail to convince Dwight or Paul to leave money on the table to come to the Atlanta Hawks.

Pau Gasol is still considered an elite big men by people in this league (not on this forum though) and acquiring him would give them a shot to contend in the east.


For one, the Hawks are not a contender for the East with Gasol. That would put them slightly better than the position they are in now. They would still be hurting badly at PG, SG, and SF. Horford/Gasol is good, but they are projecting to be around a .500 team with Smith/Horford. It's not a contender with Pau.

If you fully believe that tying up $19M in Pau is a better option than going for a huge big long-term strike in FA, regardless of the fact you could strike out, I'm going to disagree strongly with that. It's much better to attempt to be great than it is to know you'll be mediocre or in the 45 win range.

You can disagree all you want, but that is what ATL is attempting to do, via Ferry himself. What sense would it make to clear JJ, Marvin, buyout a few contracts, then go right back and add massive salary with 32/33 year old Gasol, to a roster that is not ready to contend?

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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#273 » by EastSideBucksFan » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:25 pm

A bird in hand is worth more than 2 in the bush is what I'm saying.

There aren't any better frontcourts than Horford/Gasol in the east.

With the rest of the cap space they can go out and get help at need positions and make a run next year.


You think Dwight Howard & Chris Paul are each going to leave roughly $30M on the table to join the illustrious and storied Atlanta Hawks organization?

I'm going to have to disagree with that.


If Dwight Howard & Josh Smith are best buds....and I know they are....why would Howard go there when Josh Smith has wanted out for years?
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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#274 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:35 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:A bird in hand is worth more than 2 in the bush is what I'm saying.

There aren't any better frontcourts than Horford/Gasol in the east.

With the rest of the cap space they can go out and get help at need positions and make a run next year.

You think Dwight Howard & Chris Paul are each going to leave roughly $30M on the table to join the illustrious and storied Atlanta Hawks organization?

I'm going to have to disagree with that.


If Dwight Howard & Josh Smith are best buds....and I know they are....why would Howard go there when Josh Smith has wanted out for years?


There is no way a Gasol in hand is worth more than Paul/Dwight in the bush. None.

Nobody is debating it very well may not happen that both sign there, or even that it is greater than 50/50. But that's not the point of the debate. The point is intention of Atlanta's moves. Trust me when I say they aren't moving Smith for Pau. If they did, they would be completely reversing their plan in less than one years time. If they do strike out on Paul/Howard, they can still save cap space or add other players. It's not like 33 year old Gasol is the top guy out there.

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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#275 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:55 pm

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Post#276 » by emunney » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:00 pm

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Post#277 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:32 am

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Wonder what the hell it could be about.
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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#278 » by step3profit » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:43 am

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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#280 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:59 am

Kyrie with 40 points to beat the Celtics.
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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

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Post#282 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:46 pm

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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#283 » by Thunder Muscle » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:15 pm

So when does Boston blow their team up? That's a sinking ship and I finally guessed right on them being done. I've been saying it for last year or so and they kept proving me wrong. I think they're finally dead.
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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#284 » by CanadaBucks » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:49 am

N8Frog wrote:So when does Boston blow their team up? That's a sinking ship and I finally guessed right on them being done. I've been saying it for last year or so and they kept proving me wrong. I think they're finally dead.
N8Frog wrote:So when does Boston blow their team up? That's a sinking ship and I finally guessed right on them being done. I've been saying it for last year or so and they kept proving me wrong. I think they're finally dead.


And is Detroit going to take their playoff spot?
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Post#285 » by Max Green » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:10 am

Well after claiming that tonights game is the start of yet another new season for the Lakers and that he will "bring it" Dwight is 0-4 with 2 points and 2 rebounds in 14 minutes and the Lakers is down 9 at the half.
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Post#286 » by CanadaBucks » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:14 am

Max Green wrote:Well after claiming that tonights game is the start of yet another new season for the Lakers and that he will "bring it" Dwight is 0-4 with 2 points and 2 rebounds in 14 minutes and the Lakers is down 9 at the half.



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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#287 » by RandyBreuer » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:51 am

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Post#288 » by CanadaBucks » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:54 am

And it looks like we're not the only Central team with Pistons problems.
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Post#289 » by stellation » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:14 am

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Re: ATL: KG Barks, Melo cries, Knicks hire spies. 

Post#290 » by Thunder Muscle » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:08 am

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