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Post#1 GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:00 pm by BucksBrew

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Lets get our first win in Phoenix since 1987


Little bit of Lady Luck might be needed for this one
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Jim Boylan won his first game as Milwaukee Bucks interim coach when they beat the Phoenix Suns last week. Now he'll look to accomplish something his nine predecessors weren't able to achieve against the Suns.

Milwaukee seeks its first victory in Phoenix in nearly 26 years Thursday night as it looks to win for the fourth time in six games under Boylan.

The Bucks and former coach Scott Skiles mutually parted ways hours before Boylan led them to a 108-99 home win over the Suns on Jan. 8. Brandon Jennings scored 29 points, handed out nine assists and went 5 for 7 from 3-point range.

"Brandon Jennings, he just took it over, he started shooting 3s. We couldn't stop him," Phoenix center Marcin Gortat said after the game.

Milwaukee (19-18) ended a season-worst four-game losing streak by beating the Suns and seeks to end a much longer drought in the rematch. It has dropped 24 straight in Phoenix since the NBA's all-time leader in coaching victories, Don Nelson, was on the bench for a 115-107 win Feb. 21, 1987.

This may be an ideal time to halt that skid. The Suns (13-27) have lost five of six in Phoenix and are looking to avoid dropping four straight at home for the first time since a five-game skid in March 2004.

Milwaukee fell to 1-1 on a four-game road trip with Tuesday's 104-88 loss to the Los Angeles Lakers.

Jennings had averaged 24.5 points while hitting 13 of 26 from 3-point range over his first four games under Boylan, but Kobe Bryant helped hold him to 12 points on 4-of-14 shooting -- including 1 of 7 from behind the arc.

"It was probably the best defense somebody's ever played on me since I've been in the league -- just constantly putting pressure on me, touching me, hitting me at all times in the game," Jennings said.

Defense was a staple under Skiles, and that philosophy hasn't changed much with Boylan. The Bucks are among the league leaders in forcing turnovers at 16.1 per game, and the Suns committed 16 in the first meeting.

"This is a team that you cannot turn the ball over against," Phoenix coach Alvin Gentry said after that matchup.

The Suns have averaged 16.9 turnovers while losing six of seven, scoring just 86.4 points per game and shooting 42.0 percent. They're 2-12 since winning a season-high four straight Dec. 12-19.

Phoenix earned a surprising 97-81 win at Chicago on Saturday but fell 102-90 to NBA-best Oklahoma City on Monday despite trailing by only four points entering the fourth quarter.

"We got to kind of learn from that when it comes down to the stretch, we got to learn how to run our stuff and good shots and good looks," said Shannon Brown, who scored a team-high 21 points. "Then we need to stay solid on the other side."

Gortat finished with 19 points and 15 rebounds Monday and is averaging 17.4 points over his last five games versus the Bucks.

Goran Dragic had 21 points in the last meeting with Milwaukee but has since averaged 10.5 in four games while shooting 37.5 percent.

The Suns hope to have Jared Dudley, who has missed the last two games with a strained wrist.

Milwaukee's Monta Ellis is scoring 14.8 points per game -- four below his season average -- since Boylan took over. He's averaged 16.0 and shot 31.9 percent in his last seven versus Phoenix.

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Post#2 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:05 pm by BUCKnation

This is our year.
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Post#3 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:10 pm by paulpressey25

They talk a lot about the last time the Bucks won in Phoenix.

The real epic game though was the year before. The Bucks were down 9 with 31 seconds left.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 40PHO.html

This was game five of a five game West Coast trip. Moncrief and Cummings had fouled out. It was chalked up as a loss. I turned off the TV.

But the Bucks amazingly scored 9 points in the last 31 seconds and took the game to OT where they won it. Probably one of the top ten all time Bucks games.
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Post#4 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:18 pm by Nebula1

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Post#5 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:21 pm by Thunder Muscle

Think we snap the streak tonight.
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Post#6 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:42 pm by JimmyTheKid

I love the picture of Ronald Reagan in today's Journal Sentinel Bucks-Suns preview. Thats how long its been.

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Post#7 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:47 pm by A Diddy2231

Forgot who was talking up Dudley on here..but I would love to leave Ellis in Phoenix and bring Dudley back.
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Post#8 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:05 pm by Nebula1

Dudley sucks. Outside Goran, Phoenix has collected the most annoying players in the League.
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Post#9 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:40 pm by A Diddy2231

Dudley sucks? You don't believe that...for what the Bucks need..he's a better option than Ellis
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Post#10 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:46 pm by Nebula1

A Diddy2231 wrote:Dudley sucks? You don't believe that...for what the Bucks need..he's a better option than Ellis


Oh I believe it. Dudley is garbage.

I'm shocked this game wasn't selected for TNT.. :dontknow:
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Post#11 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:51 pm by EastSideBucksFan

Hope they watched tape from the last game.

Gortat was eating up Sanders in the 1Q....need to protect the paint from the tip much better.
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Post#12 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:52 pm by mlloyd10

A Diddy2231 wrote:Forgot who was talking up Dudley on here..but I would love to leave Ellis in Phoenix and bring Dudley back.


That was I...Dudley is on a very friendly deal and would make this team better as a bigger 2 that doesn't shoot too much, 9 FGA/game while shooting 49% with a TS% of 60% for the season and 58% for his career.
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Post#13 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:59 pm by mlloyd10

Nebula1 wrote:Dudley sucks. Outside Goran, Phoenix has collected the most annoying players in the League.


Please explain why he sucks
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Post#14 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:04 pm by A Diddy2231

Nebula is a fan of Ellis and he's a fan more of the NBA than he is of the Bucks. Dudleys contract is lengthy but not too bad yearly salary wise.
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Post#15 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:10 pm by ampd

Dudley would be very similar to Carlos Delfino if he was on our team. Little better in some areas, little worse in others. Much more consistent 3 point shooter. Don't think he is as good at catch and shoot situations as Dunleavy so its harder to run plays for him.

Saying he sucks is an exaggeration. He is a slightly above average role player.
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Post#16 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:16 pm by A Diddy2231

Dudley comparison to Delfino is spot on...I just dream of the day the Bucks have a good SG
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Post#17 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:16 pm by Nebula1

A Diddy2231 wrote:Nebula is a fan of Ellis and he's a fan more of the NBA than he is of the Bucks. Dudleys contract is lengthy but not too bad yearly salary wise.


Neither of those claims are true. I'm not a fan of Ellis and always a Bucks fan first even though I do watch all NBA and love ball in general.
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Post#18 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:24 pm by jr lucosa

Dudley doesn't suck. He isn't good either.
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Post#19 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:54 pm by AussieBuck

Nebs opinion on Dudley has nothing to do with basketball evaluation, he just doesn't like him.
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Post#20 Re: GT Bucks vs Suns 8:00 FSN
Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:21 pm by trwi7

Last time the Bucks won in Phoenix my mom was 4 months pregnant with me, which I think is teh lulz. One year just by random luck you'd think they'd win there.
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