Cleveland-Memphis deal (Leuer for 1st, Speights and others)

[Lippo]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... _For_Leuer

couldn't we have taken on these 3 contracts and got a 1st?
przy for speights/selby and Ellington, we actually need SG depth/

[bigkurty]

I believe we would have had to drop players to pull this off in addition to absorb more salary for this year and and have speights under contract for next year. Plus the pick will be really bad so it is a high price to pay for for a late 1st. Totally makes sense for both of those teams but not for our IMO.

[emunney]

This is about cap space, not Jon Leuer. File this one under, "Things to tell people when they ask why we should try to get cap space because no big free agent will ever sign with us."

[drew881]

Yeah, you can do this kind of deal if you aren't paying Drew freaking Gooden millions of dollars.

[coolhandluke121]

No news here. Most of us tankers/rebuilders have lamented for years that this is the type of opportunity the Bucks would have every year if they just had the common sense to rebuild the right way.

That said, I'm enjoying this year and I think they're going to go on a hot streak soon, so I'mm not lamenting the fact that they won't/can't tank this year. I just hope they don't trade for a bad contract.

[BucksFanSD]

DISREGARD


This report is incorrect. The 1st round pick is coming from Cleveland, not Memphis which makes more sense.

Here is the actual trade:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/88680 ... ayer-trade

[BigDoggyStyle]

No...it says clearly in that article that Cleveland is getting the pick. And it'll likely be 6-14, which actually makes it a bigger deal for the Cavs. Getting a lotto pick is huge.

[giraldo5]

Thas report is incorrect. The 1st round pick is coming from Cleveland, not Memphis which makes more sense.

Here is the actual trade:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/88680 ... ayer-trade

No, it from Memphis to Cleveland, and it makes perfect sense for both clubs.

[BucksFanSD]

Thas report is incorrect. The 1st round pick is coming from Cleveland, not Memphis which makes more sense.

Here is the actual trade:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/88680 ... ayer-trade

No, it from Memphis to Cleveland, and it makes perfect sense for both clubs.

They updated the ESPN article. It said previously what I mentioned. Now both reports are the saying the same thing. The pick is going to Cleveland.

[CanadaBucks]

Evidently the 2015 pick is 1-5 and 15-30 protected for both 2015 and 2016. It is top 5 protected for 2017 and 2018. Hard for me to get excited about a draft pick 4 or 5 years away, no harm in the Cavs doing that deal though. Think it's one of those trades where both teams benefit.

[Turk Nowitzki]

I found it interesting that the Grizzlies immediately signed Bill Walker, Delonte West, and Sasha Vujacic to replace the players they traded.

[RandyBreuer]

love this deal for Clev, and if you are Memphis it sucks to have to give up a first to get under the luxury tax
to me Memphis is now stuck....guess it's better to be stuck at about 55 wins versus 44.

a few gems from the their board:


grizzlies50 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:25 pm

What a **** trade by horrible GM and front...

MEM
Marreese Speights
Wayne Ellington
Josh Selby
1st round draft pick top 5 protect

CLE
John Leuer

I know this trade is salary cut trade. but why we gave up 1st round draft pick?
This trade is absolutely horrible terrible miserable for Grizzlies.

I do not remember who offered Rudy Gay Max contract???
If Grizz GM and front and owner negotiate with Rudy Gay he might be accepted 11-13M per year.
Rudy Gay Max contract is killing our team today.
New Onwer must fire GM or GM must resign tomorrow.



by vanjulio on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:49 pm

rudy wanted a 5 year $60M and they refused him... then a year later had to pay MORE to keep him. it was really bad. They didn't want him to test the market and overpaid.

If he is the Allstar he could be... the contract ain't bad. He's no allstar though. Allstar doesn't dribble it and turnover like he does every game.

[BucksFanSD]

I found it interesting that the Grizzlies immediately signed Bill Walker, Delonte West, and Sasha Vujacic to replace the players they traded.

I am glad Delonte West is playing basketball again. He seems to be serious in getting his his bipolar disorder under control and not making the same mistakes as in the past.

[Turk Nowitzki]

I found it interesting that the Grizzlies immediately signed Bill Walker, Delonte West, and Sasha Vujacic to replace the players they traded.

I am glad Delonte West is playing basketball again. He seems to be serious in getting his his bipolar disorder under control and not making the same mistakes as in the past.

What leads you to believe that? The Mavs released him in the preseason because he was causing problems and at least one but likely more teams have passed on signing him since because they don't want to deal with him.

[DWagner85]

Thing a lot of you guys need to remember is that the Bucks do not have 10 million dollars to absorb contracts with. The Cavs are bad for a reason, they did not use any money on any kind of talent at all. 10m under a very hard cap to stay under is a strong statement to the organization. That is something I hope the Bucks never become, and due to Cavs, Suns, Wiz, and many other teams, it will be impossible for the Bucks to actually "Tank" like many of you want to happen.

The Bucks have Jennings and Sanders for the future, add a defensive minded wing who is athletic to the hoop, and you have a very strong piece to get into the 4-6 area of the East. This team is on the climb, similar to the 97-98 Bucks, not on the decline due to bad contracts like the 02-03 Bucks.

Keep the faith and give this team the support they deserve, we as fans will be rewarded this season. Keep up the good work.