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Cleveland-Memphis deal (Leuer for 1st, Speights and others)

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Post#31 » by 4xBuck » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:40 pm

Yeah, Memphis will be spinning their wheels a little bit.
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Post#32 » by Ayt » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:06 pm

Now they need to find a way to trade Gay.
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Post#33 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:22 pm

Ayt wrote:Now they need to find a way to trade Gay.

Yeah I still think they should've traded Gay to get under the tax instead of those pieces.
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Re: Cleveland-Memphis deal (Leuer for 1st, Speights and othe 

Post#34 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:28 pm

I have no problem trading a first round pick during the season of that draft, where I know the draft class and have some clue as what my pick position might be.

But most teams that trade first round picks years out with these crazy formulas usually get burned.
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Post#35 » by giraldo5 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:31 pm

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Ayt wrote:Now they need to find a way to trade Gay.

Yeah I still think they should've traded Gay to get under the tax instead of those pieces.


Watched teh entire Pacers/Griizlies game. Gay looked dreadful and over matched vs George. Where did all of his athleticism go? I can't imagine teams are lining up to get him. But then again Grunfeld and Colangelo still have jobs.
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Re: Cleveland-Memphis deal (Leuer for 1st, Speights and othe 

Post#36 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:48 pm

giraldo5 wrote: I can't imagine teams are lining up to get him. But then again Grunfeld and Colangelo still have jobs.


I think you've hit on it. The world isn't jumping to give positive assets for Rudy Gay when he's owed that $55 million over the next three years.

They were going to end up taking crap back that wasn't going to help them on the court or with the salary cap. So they went to this deal to put a band aid on and save them $10-15 million in payroll and lux tax this season.
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Re: Cleveland-Memphis deal (Leuer for 1st, Speights and othe 

Post#37 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:39 am

Just a side note but it's almost annoying that a team can trade a 1st but have it position-protected. I think it should be straight up.

Look at this diluted mess of top 12 protected picks through 2057:

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... s/detailed


That said, I hope the Grizz keep Gay and the same 5 together as long as possible.
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Re: Cleveland-Memphis deal (Leuer for 1st, Speights and othe 

Post#38 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:01 am

Nebula1 wrote:Just a side note but it's almost annoying that a team can trade a 1st but have it position-protected. I think it should be straight up.


This has become a complete convoluted mess the past year. Morey started it by getting that pick for Lowry to be guaranteed lotto 3-13.
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Post#39 » by emunney » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:09 am

I wish we had Conley.
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Post#40 » by emunney » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:13 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:Just a side note but it's almost annoying that a team can trade a 1st but have it position-protected. I think it should be straight up.


This has become a complete convoluted mess the past year. Morey started it by getting that pick for Lowry to be guaranteed lotto by getting it from Toronto.


Had to fix that one.
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Re: Cleveland-Memphis deal (Leuer for 1st, Speights and othe 

Post#41 » by Rockmaninoff » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:59 am

Finally I can get off the 'sign Bill Walker bandwagon'. Love the signings for Memphis.
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Re: Cleveland-Memphis deal (Leuer for 1st, Speights and othe 

Post#42 » by D-BE-LAW » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:50 pm

If im john leuer i show my kids, my grand kids that i was traded for multiple men.

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