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Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22)

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Player of the Game

Ersan Ilyasova
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Brandon Jennings
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Monta Ellis
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10%
 
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#16 » by Turd Ferguson » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:47 am

blazza18 wrote:
CanadaBucks wrote:Ersan who is quickly changing my mind about trading him :oops:


My thinking too. Although we do need a player that score in the post.


Our two most recent first rounders?
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#17 » by Turd Ferguson » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:54 am

LedZepp007 wrote:This may have been my favorite Monta game. This would have been our best team performance of the year if it hadn't been for crappy games from LRM and Sanders. I've come to expect Udoh to play poorly. While Ellis's defense got worse as the minutes piled on, I thought this was a smarter more subdued performance when he didn't feel as though he had to do too much. Imagine if Ellis were this efficient all the time.


I agree that he actually had a really solid game, save for when we witnessed a live performance of "The Count of Monta's Missed Throws" by Alexander Dumbass late in the fourth. Aside from his lack of clutchness and the total ineptitude to close out final possessions in quarters, or at least even get a shot attempt off, he had a very nice night overall.

Also, lol at that possession where Ersan grabbed a defensive rebound over Monta in the first half when Monta had something like 4/7/4. He screamed so hard at Ersan for stealing what would've been his fifth board :lol:
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#18 » by blazza18 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:57 am

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CanadaBucks wrote:Ersan who is quickly changing my mind about trading him :oops:


My thinking too. Although we do need a player that score in the post.


Our two most recent first rounders?



Poor Tobes can't any game time though. And Henson is only playing 20 minutes a night. Just look at it this way. With Ersan's current play I'd be more upset than happy if we traded him for Pau.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#19 » by Turd Ferguson » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:48 am

I'm still looking to sell high and move Ersan, but I think with all the speculation about how Pau would fit in in another venue and whether he'll decide to "be the man" once again or just mail it in is giving me second thoughts about moving Ers for him, even if it means shedding the contract and going full-blown win-now with Pau for 1-2 years.

That trade's never happening anyway, so I really don't pay much attention to the chatter surrounding it.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#20 » by bentley » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:24 am

Trading for Pau Gasol is NEVER going to happen for the Bucks. Thankful for that.
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Post#21 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:25 am

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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#22 » by ampd » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:36 am

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LedZepp007 wrote: I thought this was a smarter more subdued performance when he didn't feel as though he had to do too much. Imagine if Ellis were this efficient all the time.


This was a game where Ellis played to his strengths. Sure some games he will take more shots, or have a better matchup, or whatever. But the way he involved himself in the offense and defense was exactly how he can fit in as a positive here. Shoot those mid range shots in the catch and shoot, not off the dribble early in the shot clock. Use his possessions to find open teammates and attack off the dribble. Create extra possessions by playing smart defense in the passing lanes.

When he is stopping the ball and shooting early shot clock jumpers, he's a negative. But when he plays like he did tonight he can be a big positive too. Here's hoping that Ersan can continue to emerge from his shell and it helps the rest of the players settle into more efficient roles in the offense.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#23 » by KeyRabbit » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:45 pm

emunney wrote:Ersan but Jennings' full court defense is definitely bothering people. Why it took Kobe doing it to him to remember it used to be the best part of his game is a question I don't have the endurance to deal with right now.


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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#24 » by Run-MKE 311 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:49 pm

Great to see Ers play the way that he did last night, that was a solid win against a team we needed to beat.

I do not expect this nice run to last forever with Boylan, but for now it is great to see a consistent rotation and to begin to have Ers crawling back out into the fray.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#25 » by Steve210 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:18 pm

I voted Jennings, but I could have easily given it to Ersan. It was nice to see the Bucks step and play a good game on national tv. I think Brandon set the tone and don't think he forced any shots and he just kind of took what the defense gave him, and he also did a nice job defensively on Holiday. I like the way he got others inovlved but still was aggressive on offense. Ersan was a beast, it's good to see him stringing a few good games together, you can see he's starting to get his confidence back, let's hope he can keep it going.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#26 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:34 pm

Monta could be such a beast if he drove to the basket more. I think ersan's shooting helps monta a lot, because it opens up lanes and also gives him a nice kick-out option. Surround him with shooters and tell him to stop shooting jumpers, and he could be a stud.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#27 » by ampd » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:38 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:Monta could be such a beast if he drove to the basket more.[snip] Surround him with shooters and tell him to stop shooting jumpers, and he could be a stud.


People have been saying that about (and to) Monta for his entire career.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#28 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:49 pm

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coolhandluke121 wrote:Monta could be such a beast if he drove to the basket more.[snip] Surround him with shooters and tell him to stop shooting jumpers, and he could be a stud.


People have been saying that about (and to) Monta for his entire career.


I'm not sure what you're getting at. Monta always had respectable efficiency for a volume scorer until last season, and it was predicated on his ability to get to the rim and convert. He is far from a lost cause in that regard as long as he's still in his physical prime.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#29 » by LUKE23 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:58 pm

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I'm not sure what you're getting at. Monta always had respectable efficiency for a volume scorer until last season, and it was predicated on his ability to get to the rim and convert. He is far from a lost cause in that regard as long as he's still in his physical prime.


But Jennings is a lost cause, despite being significantly more efficient than Monta this season and being four years younger?
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#30 » by ampd » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:02 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:
ampd wrote:
coolhandluke121 wrote:Monta could be such a beast if he drove to the basket more.[snip] Surround him with shooters and tell him to stop shooting jumpers, and he could be a stud.


People have been saying that about (and to) Monta for his entire career.


I'm not sure what you're getting at. Monta always had respectable efficiency for a volume scorer until last season, and it was predicated on his ability to get to the rim and convert. He is far from a lost cause in that regard as long as he's still in his physical prime.


I didn't mean to say he was a lost cause. Just that people have been pointing out to him that he could be so much better if only... for his whole time in the NBA.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#31 » by floppymoose » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:35 am

I discovered I had league pass on my cable last night (sometimes it shows up without me ordering it), so I actually saw a rerun of the Bucks/Sixers game. You guys got a glimpse of the Monta I thought you were getting back at the trade.
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#32 » by CanadaBucks » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:43 am

floppymoose wrote:I discovered I had league pass on my cable last night (sometimes it shows up without me ordering it), so I actually saw a rerun of the Bucks/Sixers game. You guys got a glimpse of the Monta I thought you were getting back at the trade.



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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#33 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:50 am

floppymoose wrote:I discovered I had league pass on my cable last night (sometimes it shows up without me ordering it), so I actually saw a rerun of the Bucks/Sixers game. You guys got a glimpse of the Monta I thought you were getting back at the trade.

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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#34 » by -Jragon- » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:30 pm

Regarding the All-Star voting by coaches for the reserves: Does anyone else think that it might work against us that Monta and Jennings have identical stats? No coach will pick both of them, but most coaches will probably pick one because of our record (the excuse for not picking Jennings last year). Add to that that some coaches might fear Monta more (like the Cleveland coach) and some might think Brandon is better because of the 3's, so if they pull too many votes from each other they might both get snubbed!
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Re: Player of the Game - Bucks vs 76ers (01/22) 

Post#35 » by Fight the Tank » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:43 pm

-Jragon- wrote:Regarding the All-Star voting by coaches for the reserves: Does anyone else think that it might work against us that Monta and Jennings have identical stats? No coach will pick both of them, but most coaches will probably pick one because of our record (the excuse for not picking Jennings last year). Add to that that some coaches might fear Monta more (like the Cleveland coach) and some might think Brandon is better because of the 3's, so if they pull too many votes from each other they might both get snubbed!


Smart money is neither make it. I think Jennings has an outside chance, but I certainly wouldn't bet on it.
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