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Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:09 am
by Turd Ferguson
Turd Ferguson wrote:
BUCKnation wrote:Im hoping the friction between Monta and Boylan leads to something.


Boylan+Tobes+2013 Top 15 protected for Reddick+Magic 2013 2nd rounder + Stuff The Magic Dragon

Needs filler on our side to make it work in the trade checker

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:09 am
by Bfinkish
DanoMac wrote:FYI...from the Josh Smith trade thread. Woelful was on and said it's between us and the Suns for J Smoove.

kid idioteque wrote:Says Suns are offering Gortat, Dudley, and a 1st.


Holy hell. Please don't let Hammond touch the phone in the next 2 days.



sources now say suns are out of the running now.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:50 am
by Fed
In all honesty, how come Milwaukee has the worst luck.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:57 am
by humanrefutation
Ill-yasova wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I thought Ted Davis was going to jump on the court and smack the **** out of Monta Ellis after he took that 3 in OT. He was apoplectic.

Davis is my second favorite broadcaster in this state behind Uecker. He's always been way more honest than Paschke. What did he say after the Monta three?


Agree on Ted. As for what he said - the moment Monta took the shot, Ted was like "WHAT?! You're a 23% Three Point Shooter! HOW CAN YOU TAKE A 3 THERE?!" He kept referring back to it during the rest of OT.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:58 am
by ampd
Fed wrote:In all honesty, how come Milwaukee has the worst luck.


Self inflicted. Had the #1 pick twice in the last 20 years. We took Glenn Robinson over Jason Kidd. Bogut over Chris Paul.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:01 am
by stevescheffler06
ampd wrote:
Fed wrote:In all honesty, how come Milwaukee has the worst luck.


Self inflicted. Had the #1 pick twice in the last 20 years. We took Glenn Robinson over Jason Kidd. Bogut over Chris Paul.


In addition to inept ownership enabling awful GMs and condoning mediocrity for 25 years.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:06 am
by Frank Nova
Bfinkish wrote:sources now say suns are out of the running now.


Where in the world did u see that??

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:08 am
by Garbs_7
Anyone have a link for the Postgame show podcast or that WSSP radio show that someone shared the other day?

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:17 am
by Fed
ampd wrote:
Fed wrote:In all honesty, how come Milwaukee has the worst luck.


Self inflicted. Had the #1 pick twice in the last 20 years. We took Glenn Robinson over Jason Kidd. Bogut over Chris Paul.

Yeah, that's true...man. It just- agh. I'm gonna go jump off a bridge, brb.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:25 am
by humanrefutation
ampd wrote:
Fed wrote:In all honesty, how come Milwaukee has the worst luck.


Self inflicted. Had the #1 pick twice in the last 20 years. We took Glenn Robinson over Jason Kidd. Bogut over Chris Paul.


There are a lot of things you can blame the Bucks for, but I wouldn't blame them for those two picks. Robinson, IIRC, was the consensus #1 in 1994. Bogut and Marvin Williams were the two consensus choices for #1 in 2005 (though I was pining for Paul). Hindsight is 20/20.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:36 am
by Garbs_7
humanrefutation wrote:
ampd wrote:
Fed wrote:In all honesty, how come Milwaukee has the worst luck.


Self inflicted. Had the #1 pick twice in the last 20 years. We took Glenn Robinson over Jason Kidd. Bogut over Chris Paul.


There are a lot of things you can blame the Bucks for, but I wouldn't blame them for those two picks. Robinson, IIRC, was the consensus #1 in 1994. Bogut and Marvin Williams were the two consensus choices for #1 in 2005 (though I was pining for Paul). Hindsight is 20/20.


Bingo. CP3 simply wasn't a good enough prospect at the time to choose instead of Bogut and to a lesser extent Marvin Williams however I would have gone Bogut / Paul / Deron / Marvin.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:38 am
by Max Green
Garbs_7 wrote:Anyone have a link for the Postgame show podcast or that WSSP radio show that someone shared the other day?


It seems the site is down right now.

http://www.sportsradio1250.com/

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:51 am
by Garbs_7
thanks i'll keep checking it.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:01 am
by ampd
Bogut was the consensus #1 because Chris Paul punched a dude in the balls on the court and therefore had "character issues".

Hindsight is indeed 20/20, and Big Dog and Bogut were both good players, but the fact is we whiffed on franchise changing hall of famers in both drafts. Not to mention the numerous other horrendous moves we have made in the draft over the years that weren't even at the #1 pick.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:04 am
by DanoMac
Garbs_7 wrote:thanks i'll keep checking it.


Sites up now, but the podcast for the post game show isn't, or it'd be under the audio on the main page. If you have twitter, you can tweet them @1250WSSP and request the show and it should be on there shortly after. I've done that a few times for Brewer postgame shows and they've put them on shortly after my requests.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:06 am
by Max Green
Garbs_7 wrote:thanks i'll keep checking it.


Site is up now, but they haven't uploaded the podcast yet, it will be posted on this page when it's up.

http://www.sportsradio1250.com/pages/10686787.php?

Edit: Danomac beat me to it.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:08 am
by Wilford Brimley
I'm going to bed. Hopefully there will be a trade to discuss come morning. Hopefully that trade is positive.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:45 am
by JayMKE
ampd wrote:Bogut was the consensus #1 because Chris Paul punched a dude in the balls on the court and therefore had "character issues".

Hindsight is indeed 20/20, and Big Dog and Bogut were both good players, but the fact is we whiffed on franchise changing hall of famers in both drafts. Not to mention the numerous other horrendous moves we have made in the draft over the years that weren't even at the #1 pick.


I dunno about that, Bogut was a great college prospect and I think we all expected more out of his career. The issue with Paul was more that he was undersized IIRC. I don't think anybody would of picked Paul over Bogut at the time. Lets be glad we didn't take Marvin Williams like Terry Porter wanted to.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:16 pm
by Thunder Muscle
ampd wrote:
Fed wrote:In all honesty, how come Milwaukee has the worst luck.


Self inflicted. Had the #1 pick twice in the last 20 years. We took Glenn Robinson over Jason Kidd. Bogut over Chris Paul.


There are a lot of things you can blame the Bucks for, but I wouldn't blame them for those two picks. Robinson, IIRC, was the consensus #1 in 1994. Bogut and Marvin Williams were the two consensus choices for #1 in 2005 (though I was pining for Paul). Hindsight is 20/20.[/quote]

Yeah exactly. Big Dog was a consensus #1. And in 2005 it was Bogut vs. Marvin Williams. Obviously the general rule of thumb is take a big man, which Milwaukee hadn't had a real good one in ages and also had high hopes yet for TJ Ford the previous year's #1 pick even with the injury.

Re: PG Ben Brust takes over Joe Johnson's body

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:17 pm
by JimmyTheKid
paul wrote:
JBucks wrote:Refs were fine tonight. If anything I thought the reffing dispelled the notion that the Nets get all the calls. That offensive foul call on Williams at the end was a no-call waiting to happen and they saw threw Deron's phantom acting on defense.


We got two calls on that one play that should have won us the game, Ersan kicked the inbounds and they didn't call that and then called Monta's dive.

We got the refs tonight.


I completely disagree. And I never complain about the refs. For most of the game, I felt they were atrocious. One-sided against the Bucks. Larry got into foul trouble because of touch fouls. Dalembert, Ellis, and Mbah a Moute were called for multiple phantoms. Jennings was hit multiple times with no whistle. (that supposed NON-shooting foul was hilariously bad). Yes, Monta sold the shoulder from Deron Williams, and I agree you don't make the call at that juncture of the game, but the Bucks had been whistled for much less contact all game. I don't blame the refs for the loss. I blame the Bucks pathetic defense at the end of regulation (give up the two, protect the three!!!) Fun game. Disappointing outcome. Bad refs for one night.