ImageImage

ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Moderators: MickeyDavis, paulpressey25

User avatar
Max Green
RealGM
Posts: 11,734
And1: 1,291
Joined: Jul 04, 2007
Location: Optimist Ave.
 

ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#1 » by Max Green » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:29 am

Something is up with the Warriors, just loss their 6 straight, and 5 of those losses came by double-digits. I'm sure that goose egg Andrew put up tonight didn't help, maybe there is something to him messing up their chemistry.
Vice President of Parker-Nation.
#TeamMCW

VooDoo7 wrote:
I tried to warn you all. I hated the hire from the get-go. Kidd is a POS. He's stubborn. He's arrogant. He's overrated as hell as a coach. The sooner he leaves, the better.
User avatar
paulpressey25
Senior Mod - Bucks
Senior Mod - Bucks
Posts: 44,800
And1: 3,169
Joined: Oct 27, 2002
     

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#2 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:31 am

Those Golden State guys assumed they would just plug him in and it wouldn't impact their chemistry from the first half of the season.

The box score would appear to be a classic pube game.
I don't tweet much, but when I do, it is the same garbage you get from me on here:

https://twitter.com/paulpressey25
User avatar
Cold Crush 24
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,841
And1: 116
Joined: Nov 25, 2007
Location: Major Goolsby's
Contact:

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#3 » by Cold Crush 24 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:32 am

Can we get some damn trades already?! And can we get more StatAintLie posts already? WTF?!
Finals in 2017
User avatar
blazza18
RealGM
Posts: 23,035
And1: 4,265
Joined: Dec 02, 2010
Location: Aussie bias
     

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#4 » by blazza18 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:34 am

Only saw bits and pieces of it but it sure did look like a pube game.

Their perimeter D has been god awful and they've been relying on Bogut to much to clean their mess up. And I've yet to see him try are right handed hook shot.

Panic mode ?
Image
trwi7 wrote:Nah, I prefer touching real men.
User avatar
CJTURT
Rookie
Posts: 1,053
And1: 114
Joined: Mar 11, 2012
Location: Decatur GA

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#5 » by CJTURT » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:35 am

Jordan Crawford tossed his jeresey into the stands tonight after the loss. Hes as good as traded.
User avatar
Max Green
RealGM
Posts: 11,734
And1: 1,291
Joined: Jul 04, 2007
Location: Optimist Ave.
 

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#6 » by Max Green » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:36 am

Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.
Vice President of Parker-Nation.
#TeamMCW

VooDoo7 wrote:
I tried to warn you all. I hated the hire from the get-go. Kidd is a POS. He's stubborn. He's arrogant. He's overrated as hell as a coach. The sooner he leaves, the better.
User avatar
CJTURT
Rookie
Posts: 1,053
And1: 114
Joined: Mar 11, 2012
Location: Decatur GA

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#7 » by CJTURT » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:38 am

Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.



I think hes worth a 1st before Redick would be. And would sign for a lot cheaper.
User avatar
ampd
RealGM
Posts: 15,184
And1: 1,539
Joined: Dec 06, 2010

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#8 » by ampd » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:40 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Those Golden State guys assumed they would just plug him in and it wouldn't impact their chemistry from the first half of the season.

The box score would appear to be a classic pube game.


You know how some guys around here like Luke, etc have made a lot of our negative scoring differential and the difference between our wins and our pythagorean expectation? The same has been true of the warriors all season also. The same projection says you would expect them to be 26-27 not 30-23.
User avatar
blazza18
RealGM
Posts: 23,035
And1: 4,265
Joined: Dec 02, 2010
Location: Aussie bias
     

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#9 » by blazza18 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:42 am

Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.


Of course it is. And its probably more KG not waiving is clause and Boston not making any moves.

And is everybody asking for 1st this year ? I thought this draft was average.
Image
trwi7 wrote:Nah, I prefer touching real men.
User avatar
paul
RealGM
Posts: 31,604
And1: 769
Joined: Dec 11, 2007

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#10 » by paul » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:43 am

Yeah crap night for Bogut that's for sure, got scored on I think 4 times by Big Al, really only touched the ball on about 3 possessions, missed two shots and two tips, got yanked and didn't get back in. Wasn't icing or anything on the bench, don't know if he was unwell but Biedrins and Ezeli certainly weren't giving them anything more. Bogut looks rusty for sure, but he's just not touching the ball, like at all. The only times he is touching it is in stop ball post ups which really isn't his game at all.

The Warriors problem is their perimeter D has completely broken down and they quite simply don't know how to fix it. I'd love to see the percentages teams have shot from the perimeter against them the last 6 games, they'd have to be legit all-world numbers.

Add to that neither Curry or Thompson have any idea how to play with a decent big on either end and they're a bit of a mess. Seems like they're panicking a bit and Jackson really isn't doing any coaching, it's almost like they just expected it to right itself and it hasn't. HUGE couple of weeks coming up for them.
User avatar
ReasonablySober
RealGM
Posts: 57,238
And1: 3,366
Joined: Dec 02, 2001
Location: Cheap dinner. Watch basketball. Bone down.
Contact:
       

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#11 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:46 am

Max Green wrote:Something is up with the Warriors, just loss their 6 straight, and 5 of those losses came by double-digits. I'm sure that goose egg Andrew put up tonight didn't help, maybe there is something to him messing up their chemistry.


Or it could be they're playing good teams, Bogut's still sitting out games and he's coming off a serious injury.

His play has been better than anyone could expect. He'll be fine.
DWagner85
Banned User
Posts: 130
And1: 2
Joined: Dec 11, 2012

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#12 » by DWagner85 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:47 am

CJTURT wrote:
Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.



I think hes worth a 1st before Redick would be. And would sign for a lot cheaper.


I agree with this 100%, I would happily trade say, Epke Udoh and our first for Henderson. He actually has something other then a jump shot.
User avatar
CJTURT
Rookie
Posts: 1,053
And1: 114
Joined: Mar 11, 2012
Location: Decatur GA

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#13 » by CJTURT » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:49 am

DWagner85 wrote:
CJTURT wrote:
Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.



I think hes worth a 1st before Redick would be. And would sign for a lot cheaper.


I agree with this 100%, I would happily trade say, Epke Udoh and our first for Henderson. He actually has something other then a jump shot.


I f I were Hammond Id be looking into this before JJ. We might even back their early 2nd rounder.
eagle13
Head Coach
Posts: 6,050
And1: 101
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Location: san diego

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#14 » by eagle13 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:05 am

DWagner85 wrote:
CJTURT wrote:
Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.



I think hes worth a 1st before Redick would be. And would sign for a lot cheaper.


I agree with this 100%, I would happily trade say, Epke Udoh and our first for Henderson. He actually has something other then a jump shot.

I like Henderson but NO way our 1st goes OR Udoh. Moute straight up OR Dunleavy & 2nd.
User avatar
paul
RealGM
Posts: 31,604
And1: 769
Joined: Dec 11, 2007

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#15 » by paul » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:09 am

Pretty good night for Anthony Davis. Interested to get people's take on his rookie year. 12/7 on OK shooting with almost 2 blocks in 28 minutes a game on a bad team. Has had a few injury issues and a few playing issues but not a terrible rookie performance by any stretch.

How are people feeling about him? Better or worse than they were this time last year?
User avatar
ReasonablySober
RealGM
Posts: 57,238
And1: 3,366
Joined: Dec 02, 2001
Location: Cheap dinner. Watch basketball. Bone down.
Contact:
       

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#16 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:16 am

paul wrote:Pretty good night for Anthony Davis. Interested to get people's take on his rookie year. 12/7 on OK shooting with almost 2 blocks in 28 minutes a game on a bad team. Has had a few injury issues and a few playing issues but not a terrible rookie performance by any stretch.

How are people feeling about him? Better or worse than they were this time last year?


If I were starting a franchise he'd be in the top ten.
Turd Ferguson
Pro Prospect
Posts: 945
And1: 67
Joined: Mar 12, 2012
Location: Mediocrity, WI

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#17 » by Turd Ferguson » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:19 am

Gotta wonder what Minnesota is looking to get in return for their first, which they're apparently actively shopping. The wiretap report said they're looking for an established player...would some combo or Moute or Dunleavy and maybe our 2nd for their first+Roy work out? Do they look to take Monta in some deal where we receive their first? IT seems like the two of us and some third party would be real logical trade partners. Williams Roy and their first all seem like they can be had for the right price..I'd do everything we can to see what they'd want from us for their first.
trwi7 wrote:Monta's career has done a complete 360 since he was traded here.
Turd Ferguson
Pro Prospect
Posts: 945
And1: 67
Joined: Mar 12, 2012
Location: Mediocrity, WI

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#18 » by Turd Ferguson » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:21 am

Since they went after Mozgov, can we entice them with Dally? Just checking the box score for this game and it didn't seem like he really did anything significant to up his value with Larry back in the rotation. Just can't catch a break.
trwi7 wrote:Monta's career has done a complete 360 since he was traded here.
User avatar
paul
RealGM
Posts: 31,604
And1: 769
Joined: Dec 11, 2007

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#19 » by paul » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:23 am

DrugBust wrote:
paul wrote:Pretty good night for Anthony Davis. Interested to get people's take on his rookie year. 12/7 on OK shooting with almost 2 blocks in 28 minutes a game on a bad team. Has had a few injury issues and a few playing issues but not a terrible rookie performance by any stretch.

How are people feeling about him? Better or worse than they were this time last year?


If I were starting a franchise he'd be in the top ten.


Yeah solid call, based more on his college production than this season though?

I'll be honest, I thought he had some holes in his game that would get exposed a little in the pros and I think that's been the case somewhat, so I'm not really disappointed in his rookie season. There were some folks who were mega high on him and going with the 'bona fide instant superstar' kind of talk though, I'd be really interested on whether they feel the same two thirds of the way through his rookie season.
User avatar
MikeIsGood
RealGM
Posts: 20,458
And1: 134
Joined: Jul 10, 2003
Location: Sloane!
     

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve.... 

Post#20 » by MikeIsGood » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:26 am

I was / am a huge AD fan. This is about what I expected of him as a rookie, in general.
paul wrote:Not kidding, I missed most of the second overtime cleaning up with handy wipes, much like twirl.

Return to Milwaukee Bucks