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ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:29 am
by Max Green
Something is up with the Warriors, just loss their 6 straight, and 5 of those losses came by double-digits. I'm sure that goose egg Andrew put up tonight didn't help, maybe there is something to him messing up their chemistry.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:31 am
by paulpressey25
Those Golden State guys assumed they would just plug him in and it wouldn't impact their chemistry from the first half of the season.

The box score would appear to be a classic pube game.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:32 am
by Cold Crush 24
Can we get some damn trades already?! And can we get more StatAintLie posts already? WTF?!

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:34 am
by blazza18
Only saw bits and pieces of it but it sure did look like a pube game.

Their perimeter D has been god awful and they've been relying on Bogut to much to clean their mess up. And I've yet to see him try are right handed hook shot.

Panic mode ?

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:35 am
by CJTURT
Jordan Crawford tossed his jeresey into the stands tonight after the loss. Hes as good as traded.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:36 am
by Max Green
Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:38 am
by CJTURT
Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.



I think hes worth a 1st before Redick would be. And would sign for a lot cheaper.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:40 am
by ampd
paulpressey25 wrote:Those Golden State guys assumed they would just plug him in and it wouldn't impact their chemistry from the first half of the season.

The box score would appear to be a classic pube game.


You know how some guys around here like Luke, etc have made a lot of our negative scoring differential and the difference between our wins and our pythagorean expectation? The same has been true of the warriors all season also. The same projection says you would expect them to be 26-27 not 30-23.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:42 am
by blazza18
Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.


Of course it is. And its probably more KG not waiving is clause and Boston not making any moves.

And is everybody asking for 1st this year ? I thought this draft was average.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:43 am
by paul
Yeah crap night for Bogut that's for sure, got scored on I think 4 times by Big Al, really only touched the ball on about 3 possessions, missed two shots and two tips, got yanked and didn't get back in. Wasn't icing or anything on the bench, don't know if he was unwell but Biedrins and Ezeli certainly weren't giving them anything more. Bogut looks rusty for sure, but he's just not touching the ball, like at all. The only times he is touching it is in stop ball post ups which really isn't his game at all.

The Warriors problem is their perimeter D has completely broken down and they quite simply don't know how to fix it. I'd love to see the percentages teams have shot from the perimeter against them the last 6 games, they'd have to be legit all-world numbers.

Add to that neither Curry or Thompson have any idea how to play with a decent big on either end and they're a bit of a mess. Seems like they're panicking a bit and Jackson really isn't doing any coaching, it's almost like they just expected it to right itself and it hasn't. HUGE couple of weeks coming up for them.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:46 am
by ReasonablySober
Max Green wrote:Something is up with the Warriors, just loss their 6 straight, and 5 of those losses came by double-digits. I'm sure that goose egg Andrew put up tonight didn't help, maybe there is something to him messing up their chemistry.


Or it could be they're playing good teams, Bogut's still sitting out games and he's coming off a serious injury.

His play has been better than anyone could expect. He'll be fine.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:47 am
by DWagner85
CJTURT wrote:
Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.



I think hes worth a 1st before Redick would be. And would sign for a lot cheaper.


I agree with this 100%, I would happily trade say, Epke Udoh and our first for Henderson. He actually has something other then a jump shot.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:49 am
by CJTURT
DWagner85 wrote:
CJTURT wrote:
Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.



I think hes worth a 1st before Redick would be. And would sign for a lot cheaper.


I agree with this 100%, I would happily trade say, Epke Udoh and our first for Henderson. He actually has something other then a jump shot.


I f I were Hammond Id be looking into this before JJ. We might even back their early 2nd rounder.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:05 am
by eagle13
DWagner85 wrote:
CJTURT wrote:
Max Green wrote:Woj reports: Bledsoe & Jordan to the Celtics for KG is dead. I don't think the Clippers will trade Bledsoe.

Also the Bobcats are asking for a 1st round pick for Henderson.



I think hes worth a 1st before Redick would be. And would sign for a lot cheaper.


I agree with this 100%, I would happily trade say, Epke Udoh and our first for Henderson. He actually has something other then a jump shot.

I like Henderson but NO way our 1st goes OR Udoh. Moute straight up OR Dunleavy & 2nd.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:09 am
by paul
Pretty good night for Anthony Davis. Interested to get people's take on his rookie year. 12/7 on OK shooting with almost 2 blocks in 28 minutes a game on a bad team. Has had a few injury issues and a few playing issues but not a terrible rookie performance by any stretch.

How are people feeling about him? Better or worse than they were this time last year?

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:16 am
by ReasonablySober
paul wrote:Pretty good night for Anthony Davis. Interested to get people's take on his rookie year. 12/7 on OK shooting with almost 2 blocks in 28 minutes a game on a bad team. Has had a few injury issues and a few playing issues but not a terrible rookie performance by any stretch.

How are people feeling about him? Better or worse than they were this time last year?


If I were starting a franchise he'd be in the top ten.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:19 am
by Turd Ferguson
Gotta wonder what Minnesota is looking to get in return for their first, which they're apparently actively shopping. The wiretap report said they're looking for an established player...would some combo or Moute or Dunleavy and maybe our 2nd for their first+Roy work out? Do they look to take Monta in some deal where we receive their first? IT seems like the two of us and some third party would be real logical trade partners. Williams Roy and their first all seem like they can be had for the right price..I'd do everything we can to see what they'd want from us for their first.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:21 am
by Turd Ferguson
Since they went after Mozgov, can we entice them with Dally? Just checking the box score for this game and it didn't seem like he really did anything significant to up his value with Larry back in the rotation. Just can't catch a break.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:23 am
by paul
DrugBust wrote:
paul wrote:Pretty good night for Anthony Davis. Interested to get people's take on his rookie year. 12/7 on OK shooting with almost 2 blocks in 28 minutes a game on a bad team. Has had a few injury issues and a few playing issues but not a terrible rookie performance by any stretch.

How are people feeling about him? Better or worse than they were this time last year?


If I were starting a franchise he'd be in the top ten.


Yeah solid call, based more on his college production than this season though?

I'll be honest, I thought he had some holes in his game that would get exposed a little in the pros and I think that's been the case somewhat, so I'm not really disappointed in his rookie season. There were some folks who were mega high on him and going with the 'bona fide instant superstar' kind of talk though, I'd be really interested on whether they feel the same two thirds of the way through his rookie season.

Re: ATL: Trade deadline eve....

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:26 am
by MikeIsGood
I was / am a huge AD fan. This is about what I expected of him as a rookie, in general.