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Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby weezybaby856 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:31 am

blazza18 wrote:Weezy mate don't be to overly concerned with that trade happening. We've already apparently turned the Nets scrubs trade down.


I hope ur right my friend, I'm getting nervous though now with these new rumors swirling around Marshon Brooks saying he "wants to play for the Bucks". I mean where does that stuff even come from? Now Devin Harris comes out and says he wouldn't mind coming home and playing for Milwaukee... Is this stuff true or just speculation or what? All the conflicting rumors the last few days make me want to pull out my hair at this point.

I just can't stop being pessimistic about somehow us really screwing this deadline up by either not making any move at all or bringing in a total goon platoon like Brooklyns garbage etc.

I would say ill be happy when the deadline passes but there's an even greater chance ill be even more upset than I'm already becoming.
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby Godgers on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:33 am

I want...

Eric Gordon
or
Eric Bledsoe
or any player with the first name of Eric

The better than nothing deal would be a Package with Ellis for Smith and getting Redick.

Im done watching Bucks games with Jennings and Ellis both togther as long as that will be. Even if Smith gets traded here I will not watch if Ellis stays.

I could get on board with watching Jennings, Redick, Smith, Sanders.
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby AussieBuck on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:45 am

Godgers wrote:I want...

Eric Gordon
or
Eric Bledsoe
or any player with the first name of Eric


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aol4532 wrote:what exactly is the difference between him (Bill Russell), and say a guy like Ryan Hollins, who is 20 lbs heavier and can get his head over the rim? He would get in foul trouble so quick, just trying to hold position.
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby Sherman Douglas on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:46 am

Whoring this thing out just cus:

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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby Garbs_7 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:00 am

Godgers wrote:I want...

Eric Gordon
or
Eric Bledsoe
or any player with the first name of Eric


Eric Piatowski?
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby AussieBuck on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:01 am

Garbs_7 wrote:
Godgers wrote:I want...

Eric Gordon
or
Eric Bledsoe
or any player with the first name of Eric


Eric Piatowski?

Very nice role palyer in Live05.
aol4532 wrote:what exactly is the difference between him (Bill Russell), and say a guy like Ryan Hollins, who is 20 lbs heavier and can get his head over the rim? He would get in foul trouble so quick, just trying to hold position.
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby whatthe_buck!? on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:03 am

What's up Hambone???????? That phone isn't just gonna stare at itself!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby Mihai on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:13 am

Monta Ellis lost it all!
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby weezybaby856 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:22 am

Garbs_7 wrote:
Godgers wrote:I want...

Eric Gordon
or
Eric Bledsoe
or any player with the first name of Eric


Eric Piatowski?


He wore #52 better than Greg Oden could've ever dreamed of.
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby cellomac1212 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:04 am

whatthe_buck!? wrote:Wow, what a perfect ending for people rooting for Ellis to be traded. If Ellis isn't moved by the deadline I won't watch another bucks game the rest of the season. Where the hell is cello Mac at??????


I'm here...

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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby Wise1 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:50 am

I blame Dunleavy for the loss. I told him through the tv not to inbound the ball to Monta in this situation. I mean...I warned him. He didn't listen.
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby trwi7 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:40 am

DanoMac wrote:Image


:lol:

That deal with it gif with Josh Smith and the Big Show had me :rofl: as well.

I did not watch this game last night, because quite frankly I didn't give a ****. I did see they lost on ESPN and then I saw Ellis missed the free throws so I had to go back and look at the play by play.

Ellis in the 4th quarter.

2-8 FG, 1-5 FT, 2 TO. :rofl:

Edit: Just saw the foul call at the end of the game. That was the worst call ever, Williams didn't even touch him.
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby ElPeregrino on Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:14 am

I tried to post this yesterday but I guess it takes a day before you can post. Anyway I noticed Brandon Jennings almost single handedly controls the fate of the Bucks based on how he plays. I will demonstrate this with a stat I call IMPACT (the formula is below). Very simply put, it measures the impact a player has on the game with their scoring by taking their efficiency and multiplying it by their attempts. Every player is given an IMPACT rating (the higher, the better). An IMPACT rating of 0 is what I call “average” (though technically it’s slightly above average). For example, if a player is 1/2 from the field and has no turnovers, free throw attempts, or three pointers (ie: 2 pts on 2 shots), they will have an IMPACT rating of zero.

There are obvious downsides to this stat. Mainly, it only is a way to measure how much a player’s scoring affects their team. It says nothing for a player’s defense or passing or anything else. That being said, here is a leaderboard of selected players for IMPACT this season (out of all 448 players):

1) Kevin Durant (+163)
2) LeBron James (+129.5)
3) Tyson Chandler (+84)
4) Kyle Korver (+78.5)
5) Kevin Martin (+60.5)
5) Steve Novak (+60.5)
22) Mike Dunleavy (+21)
44) J.J. Redick (+4.5)
60) Samuel Dalembert (0)
106) Joel Przybilla (-7)
130) Ersan Ilyasova (-9.5)
133) Tobias Harris (-10)
179) Drew Gooden (-20)
238) Gustavo Ayon (-29)
254) Larry Sanders (-31.5)
281) John Henson (-37.5)
295) Doron Lamb (-40.5)
310) Beno Udrih (-44.5)
311) Ekpe Udoh (-45)
349) Marquis Daniels (57.5)
355) Ish Smith (-61.5)
395) Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (-86.5)
437) Brandon Jennings (-140)
443) Josh Smith (-174)
444) Roy Hibbert (-176.5)
445) Jrue Holiday (-183.5)
446) Greivis Vasquez (-186)
447) Rudy Gay (-188.5)
448) Monta Ellis (-232)


That might’ve been a bit boring, but where things really got interesting to me is with Brandon Jennings. The IMPACT rating of Jennings has an extremely strong correlation with the Bucks W-L result in the game. Far, far more so than any other player (or any other single stat from any other player I have seen). Here are the numbers I pulled up yesterday:

In games this season where Jennings has had a positive IMPACT, the Bucks are 15-2
In games this season where Jennings has had an IMPACT of -6 or worse, the Bucks are 3-16,
In games last season where Jennings has a positive IMPACT, the Bucks went 16-7
In games last season where Jennings has an IMPACT of -5 or worse, the Bucks went 3-15,
In games two years ago where Jennings had an IMPACT of 0 or better, the Bucks went 15-2
In games two years ago where Jennings had an IMPACT worse than -4, the Bucks went 2-20,
In games during his rookie year, when Jennings posted a positive IMPACT, the Bucks went 13-1

To compare, in games where Monta Ellis has had a positive IMPACT this season, the Bucks are 3-4


IMPACT=(A*2+B+C)/(D+E+F/2)
A=FGM
B=free throws made
C=three pointers made
D=FGA
E=turnovers
F= free throw attempts


TL;DR The Bucks go as Jennings goes.

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Here are the Bucks IMPACT ratings for this game:

Brandon Jennings (7.5)
Samuel Dalembert (1)
Ekpe Udoh (0.5)
Ersan Ilyasova (0)
Larry Sanders (-0.5)
John Henson (-0.5)
Beno Udrih (-2)
Mike Dunleavy (-2)
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (-6)
Monta Ellis (-11.5)
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Re: Nets Postgame: Panace Trade(s) Time Baby!!!!!!!

Postby ampd on Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:58 am

TL;DR The Bucks go as Jennings goes.


Yep.
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