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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby VooDoo7 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:25 am

Nebula1 wrote:I think Redick is going to give the Bucks a FTD run.

Getting bounced in the 1st round? Sounds exciting!!
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby Nebula1 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:04 am

Look, the Bucks are going for the Playoffs.. might as well sit back and support it since ain't nothing changing until the summer. Here's hoping they get the 7 or better and steal a first round series. I definitely think Redick helps them pull that off.

Hate giving up Harris, but let's roll.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby LUKE23 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:30 am

I think they would need to get up to the 5th seed to pull an upset. I also don't think Redick will be used properly on this roster. I doubt he even gets 30 minutes a game.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby Nebula1 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:39 am

I think they can beat any of these East teams outside Miami. Doubtful against Indiana, but I think they could pull it off against New York or Brooklyn or any of the rest. If Redick gets hot, it will get everybody else going. Admittedly I'm looking forward to this run.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby Wise1 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:04 am

It'll all be on Brandon. If he goes on a mega-tear in the playoffs and everyone else just plays up to their average ability, then the Bucks can win multiple playoff games against any team in the east. I'm talking 28 and 10 on good percentages type stuff from Brandon every game. Tall order..but he's capable in a short series.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby JustinCredible on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:06 am

I am not so sure we are a lock for the playoffs. I coul easily see both the 76ers and Raptors catching us. I don't know SoS remaining but at a glance it looks like a tough schedule for us.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby VooDoo7 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:41 am

Wise1 wrote:It'll all be on Brandon. If he goes on a mega-tear in the playoffs...

The downside of this...some team offers him the max and we match.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby jtrinaldi on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:53 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
Wise1 wrote:It'll all be on Brandon. If he goes on a mega-tear in the playoffs...

The downside of this...some team offers him the max and we match.

Yup. If some team offers BJ3 more than 14 million we better let him go.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby bucksbrewers3 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:56 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
Wise1 wrote:It'll all be on Brandon. If he goes on a mega-tear in the playoffs...

The downside of this...some team offers him the max and we match.


I love when people say this. Who cares how much he gets, its not your money. If he gets max so be it. Its not like we will be giving it to a guy that is at the tail end of his prime and we only get 2 years of it ala Michael redd. Hes 23 would just be a rookie if he stayed 4 years in college. You've seen the upside and what he can do (just look at the nets games) I think he just needs a dantoni type coach who will run and run and run. I know in todays age people don't like to wait long but you've seen improvements in his game to say otherwise is just being a hater and being negative for the sake of being negative which is pretty common on these boards.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby jtrinaldi on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:59 am

Who says this years fun has to be FTD 2.0
Lets get original and see what else there is.
something like : Get the mortar, the Bricks are falling.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby bucksbrewers3 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:00 am

jtrinaldi wrote:Who says this years fun has to be FTD 2.0
Lets get original and see what else there is.
something like : Get the mortar, the Bricks are falling.



and I rest my case on my previous post
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby unklchuk on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:02 am

LUKE23 wrote:I think they would need to get up to the 5th seed to pull an upset.


Not in my mind. 8 ain't great. But anything else gives us a distinct minority chance for a short series upset. (Assuming the Swag Twins are contributing - and that allowing penetration is reduced.) Even 8 has a shot at a win OR a good series. Which would stir interest. (Position 8 and a 0-4 or 1-4 out would IMO accomplish very little.)

LUKE23 wrote:I also don't think Redick will be used properly on this roster. I doubt he even gets 30 minutes a game.


I'd guess it'll be a handful of games before we see how Redick is used. I think he'll be eased in, with respect for all egos. Some fans want him to start, so he doesn't have to play with Dunleavy, but I don't see that. I think he'll be the good option quietly used to pressure Monta into changing his game. Both in situations where they play together (giving Monta a better option for a shooting teammate than he's had so far), and whereby giving Monta minutes to Redick becomes the stick part of the carrot/stick. Could be an interesting dynamic. By the end of the season, the front office may have a final decision on whether they want to build with Ellis. And Ellis may have decided firmly whether to stay or go for the option year.

In addition to his play, Redick may be an interesting chess piece.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby showtimesam on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:03 am

I'm still at a loss for how Hammond managed to give up Tobias in this deal.

If we are committed to Ersan long term at power forward Tobias is the best possible starting small forward to pair next to him. The biggest problem with our offense (besides the swag twins) is that we have no true post up option in our starting line up besides Moute.

Tobias had shown flashes of being an excellent post up player and someone we could have ran offense through with Ersan spacing the floor. Hopefully Henson will someday be that option unless Hammond gets antsy and deals him first.
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby jtrinaldi on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:04 am

showtimesam wrote:I'm still at a loss for how Hammond managed to give up Tobias in this deal.

If we are committed to Ersan long term at power forward Tobias is the best possible starting small forward to pair next to him. The biggest problem with our offense (besides the swag twins) is that we have no true post up option in our starting line up besides Moute.

Tobias had shown flashes of being an excellent post up player and someone we could have ran offense through with Ersan spacing the floor. Hopefully Henson will someday be that option unless Hammond gets antsy and deals him first.

Tobes had 1 good game this year (1st game of the year vs. Boston), its a shame he didn't get more of a chance
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Re: Redick, Ayon & Smith to the Bucks for Harris, Lamb and U

Postby paulpressey25 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:04 am

showtimesam wrote:I'm still at a loss for how Hammond managed to give up Tobias in this deal.



He wanted to keep the 2013 first round pick.

I'm not sure though where our small forward comes from for 2013-14.
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