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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#91 » by Newz » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:09 pm

Redick is going to be the best guard on the roster and probably the second best player on the roster... and he'll get less minutes than both Jennings and Ellis.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#92 » by whatthe_buck!? » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:20 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:great assessment. we need to avoid miami. if we get on a roll, which we all should be rooting FOR that to happen... we could legitimately face miami in the ecf. there isnt any other team in the east that isnt beatable by a bucks team thats playing well.

Woah Buddy. Both u and CHL need to chop that sh*t up and start selling what you're hogging between yourselves and get rich and just buy the Buck from Kohl in cash. There is NO WAY that we would beat the Bulls even without Rose in a playoff series even if we had gotten Josh Smith at the Deadline. Same goes for the Knicks and Pacers as well. U guys do realize that good teams that may think they can take it easy against us in the regular season will play hard against us from start to finish in a playoff game and will stomp the living sh*t out of us right??? Holy crap thats some dilusional BS if I've ever seen some smh...
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#93 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:39 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:great assessment. we need to avoid miami. if we get on a roll, which we all should be rooting FOR that to happen... we could legitimately face miami in the ecf. there isnt any other team in the east that isnt beatable by a bucks team thats playing well.

Woah Buddy. Both u and CHL need to chop that sh*t up and start selling what you're hogging between yourselves and get rich and just buy the Buck from Kohl in cash. There is NO WAY that we would beat the Bulls even without Rose in a playoff series even if we had gotten Josh Smith at the Deadline. Same goes for the Knicks and Pacers as well. U guys do realize that good teams that may think they can take it easy against us in tthe regular season will play hard against us from start to finish in a playoff game and will stomp the living sh*t out of us right??? Holy crap thats some dilusional BS if I've ever seen some smh...


ecf is a long shot no doubt but if this team gets their rotations right and plays up to their potential.... then its possible. there isnt a doubt in my mind we can raise hell in the first 2 rounds if we dont go thru miami.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#94 » by aboveAverage » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:40 pm

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crkone wrote:I'm thinking it may be the opposite unfortunately. Monta takes the minutes Redick deserves and Redick leaves. Then Monta can't find any takers and sticks around for next season.


This is the nightmare scenario.

This is exactly what I think will happen.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#95 » by ttime1 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:50 pm

With comments that I have seen up here, no wonder why Milwaukee will be the proverbial 8th seed for years to come. This team and city has a knack of discrediting its talent to promote less talented. Redick is a a solid situational player. If he is not on, he hurts you, if he is on, he helps you. But to think that he is a better player than Monte is a down right disillusion. Ellis is a better play-maker in his sleep than Redick will ever be. He was a sixth man on one of the worst teams in the east and will likely continue to play that role as an upgrade to Beno. Granted, Monte has to improve on his decision making to reach his potential and Redick may very well assist him in doing that by getting free and hitting the open jumpers. But for those of you who think that he is a replacement, historical production suggest that you will be very disappointed.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#96 » by H2tObes » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:52 pm

ttime1 wrote:With comments that I have seen up here, no wonder why Milwaukee will be the proverbial 8th seed for years to come. This team and city has a knack of discrediting its talent to promote less talented. Redick is a a solid situational player. If he is not on, he hurts you, if he is on, he helps you. But to think that he is a better player than Monte is a down right disillusion. Ellis is a better play-maker in his sleep than Redick will ever be. He was a sixth man on one of the worst teams in the east and will likely continue to play that role as an upgrade to Beno. Granted, Monte has to improve on his decision making to reach his potential and Redick may very well assist him in doing that by getting free and hitting the open jumpers. But for those of you who think that he is a replacement, historical production suggest that you will be very disappointed.

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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#97 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:55 pm

I'm still wondering when we'll see this Monte Ellis guy people say is good, because this Monta Ellis guy we have is ****.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#98 » by ttime1 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:58 pm

whatthe_buck!? wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:great assessment. we need to avoid miami. if we get on a roll, which we all should be rooting FOR that to happen... we could legitimately face miami in the ecf. there isnt any other team in the east that isnt beatable by a bucks team thats playing well.

Woah Buddy. Both u and CHL need to chop that sh*t up and start selling what you're hogging between yourselves and get rich and just buy the Buck from Kohl in cash. There is NO WAY that we would beat the Bulls even without Rose in a playoff series even if we had gotten Josh Smith at the Deadline. Same goes for the Knicks and Pacers as well. U guys do realize that good teams that may think they can take it easy against us in the regular season will play hard against us from start to finish in a playoff game and will stomp the living sh*t out of us right??? Holy crap thats some dilusional BS if I've ever seen some smh...


Totally agree. Those teams are more talented, better coached, more experienced and have more heart and muscle than the Bucks. The Bucks have more team speed but lacks the play making sf and power pf to go the entire series. Maybe Redick can give the Bucks a three guard line-up at times which is productive, but you can't do this with a soft three point shooting PF for extended periods. They will get killed on the boards. ehh
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#99 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:04 pm

ttime1 wrote:Maybe Redick can give the Bucks a three guard line-up at times which is productive, but you can't do this with a soft three point shooting PF for extended periods. They will get killed on the boards. ehh

Ersan is a better rebounder then most "tough and rugged" power forwards.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#100 » by ttime1 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:08 pm

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ttime1 wrote:With comments that I have seen up here, no wonder why Milwaukee will be the proverbial 8th seed for years to come. This team and city has a knack of discrediting its talent to promote less talented. Redick is a a solid situational player. If he is not on, he hurts you, if he is on, he helps you. But to think that he is a better player than Monte is a down right disillusion. Ellis is a better play-maker in his sleep than Redick will ever be. He was a sixth man on one of the worst teams in the east and will likely continue to play that role as an upgrade to Beno. Granted, Monte has to improve on his decision making to reach his potential and Redick may very well assist him in doing that by getting free and hitting the open jumpers. But for those of you who think that he is a replacement, historical production suggest that you will be very disappointed.

Holy **** I'm sick of people coming in here and saying Monta is a good player



You may have to question your own basketball acumen if you can't see his talent. The issue is if his talent is properly used. Don't get me wrong now, I cringe just as you do with too many of his wtf moments. He is not Kobe but much too often tries to play that role. But I contend that the majority of his wtf moments occur as a result of a dearth of solid coaching, overall team talent and the lack of leadership that produces clearly defined roles. If they had a talented sf and a pf who could command the paint, it is no doubt in my mind that he would be a better play-maker.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#101 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:12 pm

ttime1 wrote:If they had a talented sf and a pf who could command the paint, it is no doubt in my mind that he would be a better play-maker.

If we had a player in the paint Monta would be even less effective. The only spot on the floor he can be somewhat effective is getting to the rim, pack the paint and that gets even harder. He's an extremely flawed player and only only a gimmicky offense will work being built around him, which is getting a team no where.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#102 » by blazza18 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:13 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:I'm still wondering when we'll see this Monte Ellis guy people say is good, because this Monta Ellis guy we have is ****.


Was wondering the same thing.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#103 » by ttime1 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:14 pm

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ttime1 wrote:Maybe Redick can give the Bucks a three guard line-up at times which is productive, but you can't do this with a soft three point shooting PF for extended periods. They will get killed on the boards. ehh

Ersan is a better rebounder then most "tough and rugged" power forwards.


Please...the Bulls treat him like a rag doll and it is very apparent that when he is in the game, their rebounding, both offensive and defensive, improves significantly. But I don't blame him for that as it is the coaches who fail to counter with players who match up better who should get the blame. What other contending team has a stretch four starting? None..they come off the bench.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#104 » by ttime1 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:18 pm

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ttime1 wrote:If they had a talented sf and a pf who could command the paint, it is no doubt in my mind that he would be a better play-maker.

If we had a player in the paint Monta would be even less effective. The only spot on the floor he can be somewhat effective is getting to the rim, pack the paint and that gets even harder. He's an extremely flawed player and only only a gimmicky offense will work being built around him, which is getting a team no where.


And what big man does Milwaukee have for you to come to that conclusion?
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#105 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:23 pm

ttime1 wrote:What other contending team has a stretch four starting? None..they come off the bench.

If you think any team is contending with Monta as one of their top pieces you are kidding yourself. No team on the face of the earth could build a contender with Monta as a top 2 player. We're not building a contender here any time soon.

ttime1 wrote:And what big man does Milwaukee have for you to come to that conclusion?

It's not the big man I need to see, it's the 8 years of Monta I've seen. He isn't very good.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#106 » by TheDIsSilent » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:29 pm

We all know what should happen and what will happen. Reddick should start but Monta will start. We're trying to make the playoffs and we're not going to go screwing with guys ego's or money. Bring Monta as a 6th man on this team and he's going to tear this team apart, that move alone will cost him a couple million dollars in his next contract.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#107 » by Bfinkish » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:30 pm

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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#108 » by ttime1 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:31 pm

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ttime1 wrote:What other contending team has a stretch four starting? None..they come off the bench.

If you think any team is contending with Monta as one of their top pieces you are kidding yourself. No team on the face of the earth could build a contender with Monta as a top 2 player. We're not building a contender here any time soon.

ttime1 wrote:And what big man does Milwaukee have for you to come to that conclusion?

It's not the big man I need to see, it's the 8 years of Monta I've seen. He isn't very good.



We are not talking about any other team, we are talking about the Bucks! Moreover, you just supported my position as this team lacks over-all talent. Further, no matter how flawed his career has been in your opinion, it has been far better than Bogut's who was chosen #1 in the same draft that Ellis was chosen late in the 2nd round. Thus, Ellis has played beyond his expectations while replacing Bogut who played below his expectations.
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#109 » by mlloyd10 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:33 pm

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Baddy Chuck wrote:Ersan is a better rebounder then most "tough and rugged" power forwards.


Please...the Bulls treat him like a rag doll and it is very apparent that when he is in the game, their rebounding, both offensive and defensive, improves significantly. But I don't blame him for that as it is the coaches who fail to counter with players who match up better who should get the blame. What other contending team has a stretch four starting? None..they come off the bench.


To be fair...There are only like 5 good stretch 4's in the league
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Re: What happens to our starting lineup with Redick? 

Post#110 » by Bfinkish » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:36 pm

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Let's get locked in for a playoff run and let the chips fall where they may. FEAR THE DEER IS BACK!!

I would absolutely love it if u turned out to be right, but with Ellis still on this team killing chemistry I see zero chance this happens. That FTD run was 99% perfect chemistry. If we had completed the ATL part of the trade and shipped Ellis in it I could totally see it...



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