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Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a "a very, very good player"

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Post#271 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:24 am by humanrefutation

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paul wrote:4. Whoops, I already did 4
5. I wonder what the wife's making me for lunch, seriously could eat the crutch out of a low flying duck
6. Eighth seeds aren't given out in the offseason, get a grip guys


This board is about to get incredibly fun (as if today wasn't good enough). Should we include fun as part of the deal?

Lamb + Tobes + Udrih out
Redick + Ish + Ayon + RGM board fun in[/quote]

Well, now that fun is a factor, this might be a win.
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Post#272 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:26 am by mattg

Baddy Chuck wrote:Houston got a recent top 5 pick for their Tobias Harris, we got JJ Redick. That is why we are still the Milwaukee Bucks.

To be fair, getting a top 5 pick and using it to select a Thomas Robinson type player is a Milwaukee bucks move. It's the type of pick that would let down this entire board, after yearning for the tank so much, to end up with Robinson would be just as depressing as the current situation.
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Post#273 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:27 am by humanrefutation

mattg wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Houston got a recent top 5 pick for their Tobias Harris, we got JJ Redick. That is why we are still the Milwaukee Bucks.

To be fair, getting a top 5 pick and using it to select a Thomas Robinson type player is a Milwaukee bucks move. It's the type of pick that would let down this entire board, after yearning for the tank so much, to end up with Robinson would be just as depressing as the current situation.


You don't think Thomas Robinson has big time potential?
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Post#274 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:27 am by ampd

humanrefutation wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to argue with me, because I definitely agree with you. That's what precipitated the whole discussion.


Not arguing with you. I actually think this is a situation where someone was just not respectful enough of the context with which their comments would be interpreted as opposed to a case of actual bigotry.
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Post#275 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:36 am by humanrefutation

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humanrefutation wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to argue with me, because I definitely agree with you. That's what precipitated the whole discussion.


Not arguing with you. I actually think this is a situation where someone was just not respectful enough of the context with which their comments would be interpreted as opposed to a case of actual bigotry.


I agree. I don't think their was malicious intent, which is why I wasn't particularly angry or hurt by what was said. I was more disappointed, tbh.
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Post#276 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:44 am by humanrefutation

Ayt wrote:I'm going to be pissed when Harris becomes a legitimate starter and very solid scorer within the next 2 years.


That's my fear.
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Post#277 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:07 am by RiotPunch

The constant, blatant reminders of this team's lack of direction is what has me pissed off more than ever. Prospects given for a guy we could have made a run at in the offseason.... sneaking into the playoffs is THAT important to our FO, that we are willing to give value (albeit not a ton) for a player that might better our chances to win an extra game or two in the next 30. And then walk. If Monta walks and JJ signs a reasonable deal, then I can get behind this one a bit more, but those are some pretty big if's.

Today didn't surprise me, it's just unfortunate that my team has to constantly make moves that thrust me further and further into a depressive, uninterested state.
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Post#278 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:39 am by Baddy Chuck

mattg wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Houston got a recent top 5 pick for their Tobias Harris, we got JJ Redick. That is why we are still the Milwaukee Bucks.

To be fair, getting a top 5 pick and using it to select a Thomas Robinson type player is a Milwaukee bucks move. It's the type of pick that would let down this entire board, after yearning for the tank so much, to end up with Robinson would be just as depressing as the current situation.

Thomas Robinson was a clear cut top 5 player in the draft. He hasn't shown well in Sacramento, but then again nobody has the past couple seasons. Maybe he flops, but he gives you more of a chance at being relevant then trading for a 28 year old Redick.
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Post#279 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:10 am by Istanbullus

Maybe Hammond was impressed by Monte's defense on Redick in Milwaukee (as much as Pashke) and wanted Monte to have someone to shut down in practice. Seriously, Pashke made Redick out to be a superstar that game.

Very curious about the rotation. We all know Monte would be much better off the bench. Keep him in when he's hot, pull when he's cold and when there's two minutes left. If he pouts, as somebody said, "Gooden him."
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Post#280 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:33 am by mattg

humanrefutation wrote:
mattg wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Houston got a recent top 5 pick for their Tobias Harris, we got JJ Redick. That is why we are still the Milwaukee Bucks.

To be fair, getting a top 5 pick and using it to select a Thomas Robinson type player is a Milwaukee bucks move. It's the type of pick that would let down this entire board, after yearning for the tank so much, to end up with Robinson would be just as depressing as the current situation.


You don't think Thomas Robinson has big time potential?

Not really. Lets put it this way, I was never very high on Tobias, and I still wouldn't have traded him for Robinson.
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Post#281 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:23 am by Baddy Chuck

mattg wrote:Not really. Lets put it this way, I was never very high on Tobias, and I still wouldn't have traded him for Robinson.

IIRC you also said Austin Rivers would be a star and that Gordon Hayward was better then Paul George ;).
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Post#282 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:40 am by Rockmaninoff

I never thought Thomas Robinson was a top 5 pick. Didn't do anything until his Junior year. Never showed much skill. Average physical measurables. Pass.

I had Rivers as a late first, and I thought Hayward and George were both really good prospects.
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Post#283 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:06 am by DH34Phan

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Yeah that doesn't strike me as a convincing argument about this being a great deal for the Bucks. It locks them into the 8th seed. Congrats. I'm sure the Heat are quivering.


We're 3.5 games out of the 6 seed and one game out of the 7 seed. We could easily be facing New York or Indiana (do they allow division opponents to play each other in round 1?) in the 1st round. I think we'd match up well with them or Brooklyn or Chicago.
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Post#284 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:18 am by msiris

I think that if Redick was a very, very good player he would have been an all star by now. :D Just a guy on a crappy team who is having his best year seven years in. He screams role player like most of the guys we already have. Now I am not mad like most people, because what the Bucks do now a days no longer puzzles me. :lol: Like most people I feel that this trade does nothing too improve us in the standings. Still have nobody to close out games. The chuck brothers are still here. Like DB I think the backcourt is set. Just need too improve the SF and SG positions. And BJ needs too learn that he does not need to do it all. If not the Bucks are really screwed.
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Post#285 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:25 am by msiris

DH34Phan wrote:We're 3.5 games out of the 6 seed and one game out of the 7 seed. We could easily be facing New York or Indiana (do they allow division opponents to play each other in round 1?) in the 1st round. I think we'd match up well with them or Brooklyn or Chicago.
Do you really think Redick helps us win the games we lost the last couple of weeks? I so you are setting yourself up for big let down. :roll:
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Post#286 Re: Simmons & Lowe weigh in. Redick a &qu
Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:34 am by paulpressey25

This thread has run its course. We've got the main Redick trade thread to use.
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