In Which We Talk About Whether Giannis Should Start

cinematographer · Post #1 » by **cinematographer** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 3:32 am

Ginobli comes off the bench for SAS. Harden came off the bench for OKC. IF Kidd is going to start Knight and Parker like he did tonight, there's little to no point in starting Giannis. Playing him next to two chuc- I mean high-usage players is a heinous waste.

AussieBuck · Post #2 » by **AussieBuck** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 3:36 am

cinematographer wrote:Ginobli comes off the bench for SAS. Harden came off the bench for OKC. IF Kidd is going to start Knight and Parker like he did tonight, there's little to no point in starting Giannis. Playing him next to two chuc- I mean high-usage players is a heinous waste.

Not sure there's a point talking about hypotheticals around Knight as a high usage player. :-?

TroyD92 · Post #3 » by **TroyD92** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 3:39 am

I don't really care who starts as long as Deuces/Giannis/Parker are on the floor in the 4th

bizarro · Post #4 » by **bizarro** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 3:39 am

Wait a minute...are you defacing Brandon Knight ?!?! This could lead to a 12 page Escher-esque thread about our beloved up-and-coming no-vision PG who might just develop feel by his mid-20's.

AND, as long as Giannis gets his minutes and is creating offensively as the ball-dominant distributor in the 4th quarter I don't give a flying **** if Knight starts and gets his or tries to make pisspoor cross-court bounce passes.

And, I should add: I blame Knight for Giannis' first 2 airballs tonight. That's on Knight. Period 8-)

Jez2983 · Post #5 » by **Jez2983** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 3:55 am

These debates about Knight are so immature. I'm going to post again on here when people start using facts and figures to support their arguments.

You know, beyond all those advanced stats and such...

Also, I'm happy for Giannis to do whatever as long as he's on the court in the 4th.

cinematographer · Post #6 » by **cinematographer** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 3:58 am

Jez2983 wrote:These debates about Knight are so immature. I'm going to post again on here when people start using facts and figures to support their arguments.

You know, beyond all those advanced stats and such...

Also, I'm happy for Giannis to do whatever as long as he's on the court in the 4th.

Yeah. I still want him getting starters minutes, just as much run as one can get as THE guy.

Fresh_Prince12 · Post #7 » by **Fresh_Prince12** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:00 am

doesn't matter, just make sure he plays most of his minutes with parker by his side

Magic Giannison · Post #8 » by **Magic Giannison** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:11 am

As long he gets the most minutes out there i don't care if he starts.
Im sure if Giannis performance is good he will make into starting line up in no time.

Aaron It Out · Post #9 » by **Aaron It Out** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:18 am

The team didn't look good tonight until Giannis and Parker were on the floor together. That's all that matters.

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Post #10 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:21 am

TroyD92 wrote:I don't really care who starts as long as Deuces/Giannis/Parker are on the floor in the 4th

Exactly. Who starts doesn't matter.

Post #11 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:22 am

Like I said on Twitter, you're comparing two completely different situations.

While Giannis isn't Manu, he also isn't playing next to a Tony Parker and Tim Duncan. He isn't Harden, but he isn't playing next to Westbrook and Durant either.

It's Knight who should be playing the role of Mario Chalmers. Better yet, he should be the one playing the role of Terry or Crawford.

cinematographer · Post #12 » by **cinematographer** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:30 am

ReasonablySober wrote:Like I said on Twitter, you're comparing two completely different situations.

While Giannis isn't Manu, he also isn't playing next to a Tony Parker and Tim Duncan. He isn't Harden, but he isn't playing next to Westbrook and Durant either.

It's Knight who should be playing the role of Mario Chalmers. Better yet, he should be the one playing the role of Terry or Crawford.

And I like I said, I agree that Knight/Parker aren't on par with those guys. But if they're going to get big usage, it doesn't matter, as Giannis will then be playing a far smaller role than he should.

cinematographer · Post #13 » by **cinematographer** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:31 am

MickeyDavis wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:I don't really care who starts as long as Deuces/Giannis/Parker are on the floor in the 4th

Exactly. Who starts doesn't matter.

You're okay with Giannis playing third fiddle when he doesn't have to?

Post #14 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:32 am

cinematographer wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Like I said on Twitter, you're comparing two completely different situations.

While Giannis isn't Manu, he also isn't playing next to a Tony Parker and Tim Duncan. He isn't Harden, but he isn't playing next to Westbrook and Durant either.

It's Knight who should be playing the role of Mario Chalmers. Better yet, he should be the one playing the role of Terry or Crawford.

And I like I said, I agree that Knight/Parker aren't on par with those guys. But if they're going to get big usage, it doesn't matter, as Giannis will then be playing a far smaller role than he should.

Then that's a Kidd a problem. Are we already at the stage where we're accepting he's going to be a crummy coach?

FrieAaron · Post #15 » by **FrieAaron** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:34 am

Yeah, you don't bring someone off your bench when he's possibly the best player on your team. I understand that as long as he still ends up playing 35 minutes a game it doesn't matter, but what's the point?

WEFFPIM · Post #16 » by **WEFFPIM** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:36 am

I'm proud of this board for taking this thread so quickly in the direction it needs to go... starting has no importance.

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H2tObes · Post #17 » by **H2tObes** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:38 am

As long as he's getting 30+ minutes, I don't really care. I think he will though, kid's pretty damn good

JayMKE · Post #18 » by **JayMKE** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:43 am

Giannis is going to have to learn to assert himself if he's going to be a player in this league regardless of who is on the court with him, simple as that.

cinematographer · Post #19 » by **cinematographer** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:49 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
cinematographer wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Like I said on Twitter, you're comparing two completely different situations.

While Giannis isn't Manu, he also isn't playing next to a Tony Parker and Tim Duncan. He isn't Harden, but he isn't playing next to Westbrook and Durant either.

It's Knight who should be playing the role of Mario Chalmers. Better yet, he should be the one playing the role of Terry or Crawford.

And I like I said, I agree that Knight/Parker aren't on par with those guys. But if they're going to get big usage, it doesn't matter, as Giannis will then be playing a far smaller role than he should.

Then that's a Kidd a problem. Are we already at the stage where we're accepting he's going to be a crummy coach?

I don't think he's a crummy coach in the least, but given his Knight quote the other day, I'm in I'll believe it when I see it mode about Knight's role.

cinematographer · Post #20 » by **cinematographer** » Thu Oct 9, 2014 4:55 am

WEFFPIM wrote:I'm proud of this board for taking this thread so quickly in the direction it needs to go... starting has no importance.

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Err, if your assertion is that, so long as one gets his minutes, then yes. But I'm talking about distributing Giannis' minutes such that he's the guy for as many possessions as possible.