Bucks sign PG Jorge Gutierrez to SECOND 10-day contract

AussieBuck · Post #41 » by **AussieBuck** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:06 pm

ChuckBros4Life wrote:Kidd will start him tomorrow

Makes sense given he's the only PG on the roster.

VooDoo7 · Post #42 » by **VooDoo7** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:36 pm

ampd wrote:
stellation wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:It doesn't. But Kidd's phone does.

I honestly doubt Hammond has any say in the decisions anymore.

Yep. Dropping a Hammond pick to sign a Kidd buddy, then of all the guys in the D-League just happening to pick up a guy Kidd loved. Lucky with Kohl gone that John doesn't have an overlord making all the decisions for him!

I doubt they are just keeping Hammond around as cover for Kidd. He must be providing something.

I'm also glad we finally seem to be considering whether the coach actually wants the guys we are picking up, and whether they fit into his system. That was a big problem with Hammond / Skiles, where Hammond and the cronies were picking up guys Skiles had no intention of putting on the court, and giving up assets both to get them and to get rid of them.

Hammond is a puppet, just as he's always been.

Let me ask you this. If Kidd wants to sign a guy, and Hammond doesn't, who do you think gets their way?

If Hammond wants to sign a guy, but Kidd says "no way", who do you think gets their way?

Hint- The answer for both questions is Jason Kidd. Don't kid yourself.

worthlessBucks · Post #43 » by **worthlessBucks** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:45 pm

26 already? I feel like this guy was just in college yesterday. Never forget the hair. Never forget.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #44 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:53 pm

Hammond has say in some decisions and not in others. honestly I think the same could be said about equally for kidd and morway too

VooDoo7 · Post #45 » by **VooDoo7** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:56 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:Hammond has say in some decisions and not in others

This is the extent of Hammond's decision-making at the Bucks' offices.

VooDoo7 · Post #46 » by **VooDoo7** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:57 pm

worthlessBucks wrote:26 already? I feel like this guy was just in college yesterday. Never forget the hair. Never forget.

Wish he still had his college hair as well. Would make people forget all about Rubio's.

Wisky4life · Post #47 » by **Wisky4life** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:15 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:Hammond has say in some decisions and not in others

This is the extent of Hammond's decision-making at the Bucks' offices.

I fear he changes the bogroll daily, by the run he runs things.

randy84 · Post #48 » by **randy84** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:39 pm

The mexican Nate Wolters. Welcome aboard.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #49 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:41 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:Hammond has say in some decisions and not in others

This is the extent of Hammond's decision-making at the Bucks' offices.

Spoiler:

nah... hes still got some input. I appreciate your speculation on the topic tho.

VooDoo7 · Post #50 » by **VooDoo7** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:09 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:Hammond has say in some decisions and not in others

This is the extent of Hammond's decision-making at the Bucks' offices.

Spoiler:

nah... hes still got some input. I appreciate your speculation on the topic tho.

GOS, you're speculating just as much as me. But I'm willing to bet he has the least amount of say of all the GMs in the league. For better or for worse, Kidd is running this thing.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #51 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:45 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:This is the extent of Hammond's decision-making at the Bucks' offices.

Spoiler:

nah... hes still got some input. I appreciate your speculation on the topic tho.

GOS, you're speculating just as much as me. But I'm willing to bet he has the least amount of say of all the GMs in the league. For better or for worse, Kidd is running this thing.

sure im speculating. but im using common sense and what ive heard publicaly and privately to make that speculation. im suggesting he still has some input. the Dudley move was his... the draft will be. bayless wasn't... the 10 day contracts have kidds stink on them obviously. i know he still has say... hes well liked in the organization and around the league. to say he doesn't have input is just silly. why would you even think that?

to me its obvious that i don't think ANYBODY has final say in the organization and that includes any of the owners quite frankly. the whole thing is a communal deal right now to speculate one guy is out is just dumb. anybody that says that without actually being in the organization id want to know if they can communicate with the dead and tell the future too. i think the whole thing is guys sitting in rooms shooting the sht until they reach a general consensus. that appears obvious to me.

LittleRooster · Post #52 » by **LittleRooster** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:45 am

I know next to nothing about this guy but I'd rather have Seth Curry

randy84 · Post #53 » by **randy84** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:25 am

LittleRooster wrote:I know next to nothing about this guy but I'd rather have Seth Curry

If we called him Jorge Curry would that help?

jakecronus8 · Post #54 » by **jakecronus8** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:36 am

Was Anthony Goldwire not available?

Jez2983 · Post #55 » by **Jez2983** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:34 am

ampd wrote:
emunney wrote:K-Mart net +/- tracker: -31 per 100 possessions.

and unlike he who must not be named, KMart has a -28 ON rating

I used Voldemort a while ago. He is Voldemort

And to be completely certain, we are talking about the opposite of day?

Post #56 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:52 am

I see no problems with Hammond having less power.

My concern is that LED will turn down some deals for Dudley, etc at the deadline that might net a first.

El Duderino · Post #57 » by **El Duderino** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:14 am

It shouldn't be surprising that a guy was signed who was familiar with Kidd's schemes.

The Bucks need a guy who could get minutes pretty much right away given the Marshall injury, so they grabbed a PG with the easiest chance to step in and play immediately if needed vs signing a guy as maybe more of a pure talent flier had the team been buried in the standings. Hammond very well could have supported this signing as much as Kidd did.

ampd · Post #58 » by **ampd** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:17 am

Jez2983 wrote:
ampd wrote:
emunney wrote:K-Mart net +/- tracker: -31 per 100 possessions.

and unlike he who must not be named, KMart has a -28 ON rating

I used Voldemort a while ago. He is Voldemort

And to be completely certain, we are talking about the opposite of day?

We are indeed talking about the opposite of what kills vampires

worthlessBucks · Post #59 » by **worthlessBucks** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:31 am

paulpressey25 wrote:I see no problems with Hammond having less power.

My concern is that LED will turn down some deals for Dudley, etc at the deadline that might net a first.

Too valuable to the mission, too valuable to the group. I bet we consider buying another Dudley though.

Prince12 · Post #60 » by **Prince12** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:51 am

Okc are in struggle town I see them as a team that has to make a trade for the Dudley, Bayless type. Other then Lamb could we pry a pick from them. Whilst they are definately still in championship mode there is a big chance their first is a decent pick..if they still have it?