ESPN: What Does Kidd See in MCW? (Team USA pg12)

randy84 · Post #421 » by **randy84** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:31 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:Turn into to peak Eric Snow and I'd consider it a win.

Too bad we don't have prime Allen Iverson to go with him.

Post #422 » by **Prez** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:48 pm

randy84 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Turn into to peak Eric Snow and I'd consider it a win.

Too bad we don't have prime Allen Iverson to go with him.

Not currently. But we have 2 guys with the potential to be better.

Badgerlander · Post #423 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Aug 3, 2015 11:13 pm

http://www.stack.com/video/4389714254001/offseason-training-with-michael-carterwilliams/

SpursNBucks · Post #424 » by **SpursNBucks** » Mon Aug 3, 2015 11:31 pm

Badgerlander wrote:http://www.stack.com/video/4389714254001/offseason-training-with-michael-carterwilliams/

i hope he proves the haters wrong.

Post #425 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Aug 3, 2015 11:41 pm

The 500/700 made jump shots is encouraging. Hope that's actually happening.

TroyD92 · Post #426 » by **TroyD92** » Mon Aug 3, 2015 11:43 pm

SpursNBucks wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:http://www.stack.com/video/4389714254001/offseason-training-with-michael-carterwilliams/

i hope he proves the haters wrong.

How are we haters for calling him what he is?

AussieBuck · Post #427 » by **AussieBuck** » Mon Aug 3, 2015 11:44 pm

Holy partial reps Batman!

Ill-yasova · Post #428 » by **Ill-yasova** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 12:32 am

AussieBuck wrote:Holy partial reps Batman!

Touch the chest MCW!!!!!

Baddy Chuck · Post #429 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 1:15 am

TroyD92 wrote:
SpursNBucks wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:http://www.stack.com/video/4389714254001/offseason-training-with-michael-carterwilliams/

i hope he proves the haters wrong.

How are we haters for calling him what he is?

Yeah it really is pretty much an optimist vs realist thing going on.

Zeezprah · Post #430 » by **Zeezprah** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 1:30 am

Ill-yasova wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Holy partial reps Batman!

Touch the chest MCW!!!!!

he's 6'5 with a 6'7, he gets a pass

little easier for us average height dudes :lol:

AussieBuck · Post #431 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 1:37 am

Zeezprah wrote:
Ill-yasova wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Holy partial reps Batman!

Touch the chest MCW!!!!!

he's 6'5 with a 6'7, he gets a pass

little easier for us average height dudes

Don't really see the relevance, I don't think if I gained 2 inches of wingspan I'd suddenly only be able to do less than half reps. He's just got a really **** trainer I guess. About the only thing he was doing to full range was bicep curls! :lol:

Zeezprah · Post #432 » by **Zeezprah** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 2:33 am

AussieBuck wrote:
Zeezprah wrote:
Ill-yasova wrote:Touch the chest MCW!!!!!

he's 6'5 with a 6'7, he gets a pass

little easier for us average height dudes

Don't really see the relevance, I don't think if I gained 2 inches of wingspan I'd suddenly only be able to do less than half reps. He's just got a really **** trainer I guess. About the only thing he was doing to full range was bicep curls!

well just mathematically longer-limbed dudes have much longer to move the weight. not really what to say other than it's truth. i've played all sports with all different types of dudes and i've never seen a 6'6 guy have it as easy as a 5'6 guy when it comes to lifting weights. there's a reason most IFBB pros are 5'8-5'10 and not taller.

not even to mention there's different variations of bench (not just grip) that target different muscle groups. contrary to popular belief, there's really nothing inherently wrong with partial reps. especially if someone has a specific muscle group that is lagging in development. i'm betting that wasn't his intent, but i'm just saying, i'll personally give him slack there.

but yea, the curls are pretty pointless from an athletic standpoint, not really sure why he was doing like 100 different curl variations. he needs to spend more time with suki.

drew881 · Post #433 » by **drew881** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 2:39 am

Zeezprah wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:
Zeezprah wrote:

he's 6'5 with a 6'7, he gets a pass

little easier for us average height dudes

Don't really see the relevance, I don't think if I gained 2 inches of wingspan I'd suddenly only be able to do less than half reps. He's just got a really **** trainer I guess. About the only thing he was doing to full range was bicep curls!

well just mathematically longer-limbed dudes have much longer to move the weight. not really what to say other than it's truth. i've played all sports with all different types of dudes and i've never seen a 6'6 guy have it as easy as a 5'6 guy when it comes to lifting weights. there's a reason most IFBB pros are 5'8-5'10 and not taller.

not even to mention there's different variations of bench (not just grip) that target different muscle groups. contrary to popular belief, there's really nothing inherently wrong with partial reps. especially if someone has a specific muscle group that is lagging in development. i'm betting that wasn't his intent, but i'm just saying, i'll personally give him slack there.

but yea, the curls are pretty pointless from an athletic standpoint, not really sure why he was doing like 100 different curl variations. he needs to spend more time with suki.

Probably has to do with the torn labrum? I'm guessing he is doing better extension with lower weight groups.

Post #434 » by **Prez** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 2:42 am

The fact that they keep bringing up how his shoulder injury ruined his last offseason training tells me that it actually was a big factor. Don't know MCW as a player that well but he doesn't seem like the type of guy to make excuses unless they're genuine. Hoping that this is all for real and he really is making the best of a healthy summer. That part about making 500-700 jumpers better not be fluff.

AussieBuck · Post #435 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 2:49 am

Zeezprah wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:
Zeezprah wrote:

he's 6'5 with a 6'7, he gets a pass

little easier for us average height dudes

Don't really see the relevance, I don't think if I gained 2 inches of wingspan I'd suddenly only be able to do less than half reps. He's just got a really **** trainer I guess. About the only thing he was doing to full range was bicep curls!

well just mathematically longer-limbed dudes have much longer to move the weight. not really what to say other than it's truth. i've played all sports with all different types of dudes and i've never seen a 6'6 guy have it as easy as a 5'6 guy when it comes to lifting weights. there's a reason most IFBB pros are 5'8-5'10 and not taller.

not even to mention there's different variations of bench (not just grip) that target different muscle groups. contrary to popular belief, there's really nothing inherently wrong with partial reps. especially if someone has a specific muscle group that is lagging in development. i'm betting that wasn't his intent, but i'm just saying, i'll personally give him slack there.

but yea, the curls are pretty pointless from an athletic standpoint, not really sure why he was doing like 100 different curl variations. he needs to spend more time with suki.

The pushups, bench and shoulder press were all only going down 1/2 way or less IIRC, just looks like someone doing stuff wrong when it's pretty much everything in the video unless that's his full range post injury, which could explain his ugly launching shooting form. The curls could be related to the shoulder injury actually now that I think about it. :oops:

I remember a former colleague talking about the issues he had with his bicep tendon after shoulder surgery.

Zeezprah · Post #436 » by **Zeezprah** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 2:52 am

drew881 wrote:
Zeezprah wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Don't really see the relevance, I don't think if I gained 2 inches of wingspan I'd suddenly only be able to do less than half reps. He's just got a really **** trainer I guess. About the only thing he was doing to full range was bicep curls!

well just mathematically longer-limbed dudes have much longer to move the weight. not really what to say other than it's truth. i've played all sports with all different types of dudes and i've never seen a 6'6 guy have it as easy as a 5'6 guy when it comes to lifting weights. there's a reason most IFBB pros are 5'8-5'10 and not taller.

not even to mention there's different variations of bench (not just grip) that target different muscle groups. contrary to popular belief, there's really nothing inherently wrong with partial reps. especially if someone has a specific muscle group that is lagging in development. i'm betting that wasn't his intent, but i'm just saying, i'll personally give him slack there.

but yea, the curls are pretty pointless from an athletic standpoint, not really sure why he was doing like 100 different curl variations. he needs to spend more time with suki.

Probably has to do with the torn labrum? I'm guessing he is doing better extension with lower weight groups.

i forgot all about that. that would make perfect sense.

Zeezprah · Post #437 » by **Zeezprah** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 2:56 am

AussieBuck wrote:
Zeezprah wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Don't really see the relevance, I don't think if I gained 2 inches of wingspan I'd suddenly only be able to do less than half reps. He's just got a really **** trainer I guess. About the only thing he was doing to full range was bicep curls!

well just mathematically longer-limbed dudes have much longer to move the weight. not really what to say other than it's truth. i've played all sports with all different types of dudes and i've never seen a 6'6 guy have it as easy as a 5'6 guy when it comes to lifting weights. there's a reason most IFBB pros are 5'8-5'10 and not taller.

not even to mention there's different variations of bench (not just grip) that target different muscle groups. contrary to popular belief, there's really nothing inherently wrong with partial reps. especially if someone has a specific muscle group that is lagging in development. i'm betting that wasn't his intent, but i'm just saying, i'll personally give him slack there.

but yea, the curls are pretty pointless from an athletic standpoint, not really sure why he was doing like 100 different curl variations. he needs to spend more time with suki.

The pushups, bench and shoulder press were all only going down 1/2 way or less IIRC, just looks like someone doing stuff wrong when it's pretty much everything in the video unless that's his full range post injury, which could explain his ugly launching shooting form. The curls could be related to the shoulder injury actually now that I think about it. I remember a former colleague talking about the issues he had with his bicep tendon after shoulder surgery.

i just hope he's getting plenty of time with our actual strength and conditioning staff. i'm reading about all the stuff suki is doing and it's pretty awesome. nice resource our owners really seem to be really invested in. i think if all our guys put the work in with that staff, we'll have one of the best conditioned teams in the league.

Bernman · Post #438 » by **Bernman** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 3:00 am

Just to clarify, not 500 of 700. He had a goal to make 500 a day before he stops, 700 on Saturday. But the emphasis is good. It's a positive to finally hear that.

As well as him working on strength. Because that's another area he really needed it for the 3-pt shot and getting an edge on opponents off the dribble.

AussieBuck · Post #439 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 3:03 am

Zeezprah wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:
Zeezprah wrote:
well just mathematically longer-limbed dudes have much longer to move the weight. not really what to say other than it's truth. i've played all sports with all different types of dudes and i've never seen a 6'6 guy have it as easy as a 5'6 guy when it comes to lifting weights. there's a reason most IFBB pros are 5'8-5'10 and not taller.

not even to mention there's different variations of bench (not just grip) that target different muscle groups. contrary to popular belief, there's really nothing inherently wrong with partial reps. especially if someone has a specific muscle group that is lagging in development. i'm betting that wasn't his intent, but i'm just saying, i'll personally give him slack there.

but yea, the curls are pretty pointless from an athletic standpoint, not really sure why he was doing like 100 different curl variations. he needs to spend more time with suki.

The pushups, bench and shoulder press were all only going down 1/2 way or less IIRC, just looks like someone doing stuff wrong when it's pretty much everything in the video unless that's his full range post injury, which could explain his ugly launching shooting form. The curls could be related to the shoulder injury actually now that I think about it. I remember a former colleague talking about the issues he had with his bicep tendon after shoulder surgery.

i just hope he's getting plenty of time with our actual strength and conditioning staff. i'm reading about all the stuff suki is doing and it's pretty awesome. nice resource our owners really seem to be really invested in. i think if all our guys put the work in with that staff, we'll have one of the best conditioned teams in the league.

Having proper strength and conditioning staff is my favorite thing that happened this offseason. I'm hoping MCW has just made a bad hire for his personal training and it isn't that he doesn't have full range of movement this far removed from his shoulder surgery.

mke_design · Post #440 » by **mke_design** » Tue Aug 4, 2015 3:40 am

AussieBuck wrote:
Zeezprah wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:The pushups, bench and shoulder press were all only going down 1/2 way or less IIRC, just looks like someone doing stuff wrong when it's pretty much everything in the video unless that's his full range post injury, which could explain his ugly launching shooting form. The curls could be related to the shoulder injury actually now that I think about it. I remember a former colleague talking about the issues he had with his bicep tendon after shoulder surgery.

i just hope he's getting plenty of time with our actual strength and conditioning staff. i'm reading about all the stuff suki is doing and it's pretty awesome. nice resource our owners really seem to be really invested in. i think if all our guys put the work in with that staff, we'll have one of the best conditioned teams in the league.

Having proper strength and conditioning staff is my favorite thing that happened this offseason. I'm hoping MCW has just made a bad hire for his personal training and it isn't that he doesn't have full range of movement this far removed from his shoulder surgery.

I don't think his trainers would be as incompetent as to not understand what full range vs partial reps are doing/not doing. Also, this is a video to showcase MCW and if he's putting big weights on to show off while doing partial reps most people won't know the difference.

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