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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1641 » by HurricaneKid » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:37 pm

Mostly to PP...

The league has completely changed. Defenses don't allow option A to beat them. Often they are able to limit options B and C too. The FMVP named a week ago was a bench player all year that Cle elected NOT TO GUARD. Saying a guy should be able to carry his team in the West to 45 games when they are outscored by 8.6pp100p when he is out is 90s ball. It doesn't work like that anymore. Especially in the West. I mean a team with Westbrook, Durant, and Ibaka just missed the playoffs this year.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1642 » by Matches Malone » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:25 pm

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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1643 » by machu46 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:32 pm

I suspect he'll consider his options, but end up returning to Cleveland.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1644 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:42 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/wojyahoonba/status/613779124813975553[/tweet]

...weird.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1645 » by worthlessBucks » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:45 pm

Kevin, you will look amazing next to Paul Pierce and Robin Lopez. Think of your future stats.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1646 » by Badgerlander » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:49 pm

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Post#1647 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:59 pm

I think love leaves Cleveland
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1648 » by buckboy » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:03 pm

Just curious what you guys think of this trade proposed on the trade board:

Miami out:
Bosh, Wade, Birdman. Chalmers, #10
In: Cousins, Middleton (S&T), Mayo, Plumlee

Sac out:
Cousins, Thompson, Landry, #6
In: Bosh, Wade, Zaza

Milwaukee out:
Middleton (s&t), Mayo, zaza
In: Birdman, Chalmers, Landry, Thompson, rights to #6, rights to #10

I wouldn't do it, but I'm curious what other Bucks fans think.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1649 » by humanrefutation » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:07 pm

buckboy wrote:Just curious what you guys think of this trade proposed on the trade board:

Miami out:
Bosh, Wade, Birdman. Chalmers, #10
In: Cousins, Middleton (S&T), Mayo, Plumlee

Sac out:
Cousins, Thompson, Landry, #6
In: Bosh, Wade, Zaza

Milwaukee out:
Middleton (s&t), Mayo, zaza
In: Birdman, Chalmers, Landry, Thompson, rights to #6, rights to #10

I wouldn't do it, but I'm curious what other Bucks fans think.


Depends on who's sitting at 6. I'd consider it if Mudiay is sitting there.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1650 » by Tuxedo38 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:13 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/613781079254765568[/tweet]

I wonder if they'd be willing to remove some/all of the protection on their 2017 draft pick.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1651 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:13 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/wojyahoonba/status/613779124813975553[/tweet]

...weird.


That core is ripe with the potential of winning 46 games....in the East.

No idea how either Love or Celtics fans would be even remotely excited about that possibility Unless they plan on going after another max money player in 2016 (Durant?).
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1652 » by mattg » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:15 pm

Don't see how that's even close to fair value for Sacramento. It reminds me of when people would propose awful bucks trades using the rationale of "your FO is stupid so how about you give us your best assets for crap".

In terms of value for the bucks, it entirely hinges on who is available at 6. 6 is the point where if unexpected stuff happens, a great prospect can slide. We keep hearing rumors of porzingis going top 3 and maybe WCS going 4th. That means that okafor, mudiay, hezonja, Winslow are all potentially in play depending on the 5th pick. Can't really say no to jahlil/manny/justice plus 10 for khris.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1653 » by MadBlueEdwards » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:15 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
buckboy wrote:Just curious what you guys think of this trade proposed on the trade board:

Miami out:
Bosh, Wade, Birdman. Chalmers, #10
In: Cousins, Middleton (S&T), Mayo, Plumlee

Sac out:
Cousins, Thompson, Landry, #6
In: Bosh, Wade, Zaza

Milwaukee out:
Middleton (s&t), Mayo, zaza
In: Birdman, Chalmers, Landry, Thompson, rights to #6, rights to #10

I wouldn't do it, but I'm curious what other Bucks fans think.


Depends on who's sitting at 6. I'd consider it if Mudiay is sitting there.


Would not do it. The picks are nice, but we'd be taking on too much garbage to give up Middleton.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1654 » by Tuxedo38 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:30 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/613790967397785600[/tweet]


Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 52s52 seconds ago
Cleveland remains the frontrunner to sign Love to a five-year, $100M-plus extension, but Love could be willing to hear out Celtics, Lakers.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1655 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:32 pm

It makes no sense for Love to sign a long term extension this summer. Better idea is signing a two year deal somewhere with an opt out.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1656 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:32 pm

Danny Ainge is such a weirdo.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1657 » by machu46 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:43 pm

Not sure why Love would sign long-term. Would have to think he plans to sign another 1 year deal.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1658 » by machu46 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:53 pm

Of some significance, David West opted out. If Hibbert does too, Indiana could have over $20 mil in cap space I think.

And West could be an interesting option for a contender/team in need of veteran presence.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1659 » by humanrefutation » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:54 pm

MadBlueEdwards wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:
buckboy wrote:Just curious what you guys think of this trade proposed on the trade board:

Miami out:
Bosh, Wade, Birdman. Chalmers, #10
In: Cousins, Middleton (S&T), Mayo, Plumlee

Sac out:
Cousins, Thompson, Landry, #6
In: Bosh, Wade, Zaza

Milwaukee out:
Middleton (s&t), Mayo, zaza
In: Birdman, Chalmers, Landry, Thompson, rights to #6, rights to #10

I wouldn't do it, but I'm curious what other Bucks fans think.


Depends on who's sitting at 6. I'd consider it if Mudiay is sitting there.


Would not do it. The picks are nice, but we'd be taking on too much garbage to give up Middleton.


Chalmers and Birman are expiring contracts, an even swap for Mayo and Zaza. Thompson and Landry have two years left on their deals. Not great. But I'd consider taking them on if that means I could add Okafor/Mudiay/Winslow and a Myles Turner at 10.
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Re: ATL/NBA Finals 

Post#1660 » by Licensed to Il » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:24 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:Danny Ainge is such a weirdo.


If Ainge posted his ideas on the Celtics real gm forum, I bet he would get called a noob and told his ideas are sporadic and too wild to actually happen.

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