SL Game Thread: Bucks v. Cavs at 3pm CT Monday (Now)

teleblaze · Post #41 » by **teleblaze** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:22 pm

Lol, how do you lose that?

Bernman · Post #42 » by **Bernman** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:32 pm

TroyD92 wrote:I'd give Kilpatrick a roster spot over Gutz

Thank goodness that's a false dilemma.

Hopefully the real dilemma is Ray Ray vs. O.J.

VooDoo7 · Post #43 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:32 pm

Did Hammond mention Giannis at the 3? I always thought he'd be better at the 4, and Jabari would play the 3. Tho I guess they can be interchangeable based on matchups.

Baddy Chuck · Post #44 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:42 pm

Bernman wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:I'd give Kilpatrick a roster spot over Gutz

Thank goodness that's a false dilemma.

Hopefully the real dilemma is Ray Ray vs. O.J.

Suppose ill eat crow if it happens but Id put the odds of Allen being a realistic option at 0%.

Bernman · Post #45 » by **Bernman** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:43 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:Did Hammond mention Giannis at the 3? I always thought he'd be better at the 4, and Jabari would play the 3. Tho I guess they can be interchangeable based on matchups.

I as well, but this is really Kidd talking, and mind you he reportedly put the kiebash on Portis to keep almost all minutes at the 4 in the future open to Jabari. So it appears he views Jabari as more the 4.

But yes, I imagine they'll be somewhat interchangeable, and Kidd has also openly espoused the concept of positionless basketball. Your best 5 players with a big and a guy who can bring the ball up.

Bernman · Post #46 » by **Bernman** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:44 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Bernman wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:I'd give Kilpatrick a roster spot over Gutz

Thank goodness that's a false dilemma.

Hopefully the real dilemma is Ray Ray vs. O.J.

Suppose ill eat crow if it happens but Id put the odds of Allen being a realistic option at 0%.

Double the fun, then.

Tuxedo38 · Post #47 » by **Tuxedo38** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:49 pm

Wait, we lost? :lol:

I stopped watching to go eat when we were up double digits with about 2 minutes to play.

VooDoo7 · Post #48 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:55 pm

Tuxedo38 wrote:Wait, we lost?

Yup. And I don't know how, but I'm sure it had something to do with that Vasquez trade.

BUCKnation · Post #49 » by **BUCKnation** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:01 pm

Clark sounds like a great tank commander

Post #50 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:09 pm

Crap game. Crap summer league team.

Inglis got some burn and hit a couple nice shots. He simply needs to physically sculpt his body. Spend the next three months with Jabari's trainer. Right now he looks like late career Bobby Simmons. He moves like a turtle and can hit an open three.

Vaughn is the wild card. He's far smoother with the ball on drives and passing than advertised. Really nice skills. That said, his outside shot isn't broken but is inconsistent. Almost wild at times. Someone has to make him sit in the gym and shoot 1,000 jumpers a day to develop consistent form.

Post #51 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:12 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Someone has to make him sit in the gym and shoot 1,000 jumpers a day to develop consistent form.

Agreed. Right alongside MCW and Giannis

Bernman · Post #52 » by **Bernman** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:19 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
Tuxedo38 wrote:Wait, we lost?

Yup. And I don't know how, but I'm sure it had something to do with that Vasquez trade.

It did. We traded our 2nd round pick for him. That turned out to be summer league GOAT Norman Powell.

RealBucksFan · Post #53 » by **RealBucksFan** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:26 pm

Bernman wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:Did Hammond mention Giannis at the 3? I always thought he'd be better at the 4, and Jabari would play the 3. Tho I guess they can be interchangeable based on matchups.

I as well, but this is really Kidd talking, and mind you he reportedly put the kiebash on Portis to keep almost all minutes at the 4 in the future open to Jabari. So it appears he views Jabari as more the 4.

But yes, I imagine they'll be somewhat interchangeable, and Kidd has also openly espoused the concept of positionless basketball. Your best 5 players with a big and a guy who can bring the ball up.

When Jabari and Giannis shared the court last year, it was mostly Jabari at the 4. I think both Giannis and Jabari are both combo-forwards who can play SF next to another combo-forward or PF next to either a wing or another combo forward. Neither would be a great fit as a SF next to a big PF. Both seem to have the offensive games of PFs. Giannis probably is the SF because he can guard the weak side wing and act as a rim protector. Jabari getting in better shape and losing weight, as he has been doing, will help him next to Giannis.

I do really think the Bucks lucked out into having the perfect pair of forward complements. Both Giannis and Jabari are combo-forwards who can fit next to each other and crossmatch well, giving the team versatility. The team will have to learn how to balance their offensive games, but that will come with time. Plus, both could be major mismatches on offense, since they are both way too big for most SFs to easily defend, but both are way too quick for a lot of interior oriented PFs.

MrPerfect1 · Post #54 » by **MrPerfect1** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:39 pm

How did Vaughn look today?

Treebeard · Post #55 » by **Treebeard** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:08 am

Newz wrote:
IrishRainbow wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/NBA/status/620686563626749952[/tweet]

He looks **** huge.

I've been sayin - just look to his older brother for how Giannis shapes up as he grows. Thanasis is built like a brick outhouse.

Ayt · Post #56 » by **Ayt** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:08 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Crap game. Crap summer league team.

Inglis got some burn and hit a couple nice shots. He simply needs to physically sculpt his body. Spend the next three months with Jabari's trainer. Right now he looks like late career Bobby Simmons. He moves like a turtle and can hit an open three.

Vaughn is the wild card. He's far smoother with the ball on drives and passing than advertised. Really nice skills. That said, his outside shot isn't broken but is inconsistent. Almost wild at times. Someone has to make him sit in the gym and shoot 1,000 jumpers a day to develop consistent form.

The last thing I'd worry about with Vaughn is his jumper.

bucksfansince88 · Post #57 » by **bucksfansince88** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:16 am

0-0FG 9-14FT 4REB 5BS 9PTs in 18mins Kravstov with the odd but beastly stat line

SupremeHustle · Post #58 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:36 am

IrishRainbow wrote:
BucksIn6ix wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Bucks/status/620674368952074240[/tweet]

Giannis looks like a different person!

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NBA/status/620686563626749952[/tweet]

Cool. Another excuse for why he's not making 3s.

Ayt · Post #59 » by **Ayt** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:15 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
IrishRainbow wrote:
BucksIn6ix wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Bucks/status/620674368952074240[/tweet]

Giannis looks like a different person!

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NBA/status/620686563626749952[/tweet]

Cool. Another excuse for why he's not making 3s.

Why aren't you making threes? Hmm? Hmmmmmm??????

FrieAaron · Post #60 » by **FrieAaron** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:25 am

Just finished watching the game; I didn't expect it to take so long, but then again, I didn't expect to see SEVENTY-TWO free throws in a summer league game. It was beyond ridiculous. All I care about really Vaughn and Inglis and both looked OK I thought. I'm most impressed by Vaughn's court vision he's shown on a few passes in every game and by how cool his demeanor seems to be, especially at his age. The only other player I'd want them to even look at this team is Kilpatrick. Eric is abysmal.