MCW OUT for season - torn hip labrum

[skones]

This sounds about right... This coupled with the way Kidd handled the 4th quarter last night leads me to believe the tank is on.

I think Kidd understands the big picture.

We have a precedent for this team claiming players are injured and away from the team during Kidd's tenure. We saw it with Larry Sanders where they said it was the flu or something for a while, then said he was sick and personal reasons.

That said, I could see a scenario where they shut him down for his own good and just have the surgery early enough to be ready for next year.

If you are in the camp that thinks this was the case, you can probably assume the same for Vasquez being shut down and who knows what about Kidd having his hip replacement done mid season.

I had also heard whispers of the team not being pleased with OJ Mayo and his extracurricular habits earlier this season when he was "injured."

[MickeyDavis]

He's saying the right things but he's also going into a contract year.

[Shaffty]

I have a feeling it's something that could have waited until the offseason (which is just 6 weeks down the road) . But as ESBF said, he was benched and unhappy so they decided to just get it done now as a way to shut him down for the season.

This sounds about right... This coupled with the way Kidd handled the 4th quarter last night leads me to believe the tank is on.

I think Kidd understands the big picture.

In this piece about MCW http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/michael-carter-williams-sees-a-future-role-for-himself-b99695427z1-373786061.html

Kidds quote about Giannis' says it all

"Michael is able to guard the point," Kidd said. "Giannis isn't going to guard the point. You've got to have a small on the floor. With Michael being able to work on his jump shot and become consistent, it only makes us better."

aka Giannis is our point guard but he can't guard point guards

[sidney lanier]

I think there's a place for him here. He'll probably never be a 3pt threat no matter how many shot doctors they bring in this summer, but he'll always be an elite defender at the one and should be able to post up most opposing PGs. If Parker's proficiency beyond the arc continues to improve, and the problem of finding a compatible five is solved (even if the solution is playing without a true center), I think MCW can become a valuable piece.

[DingleJerry]

I also think he can have a solid role off the bench and be of good use as recent people said. Especially when you factor in the mass overhaul the roster could face this offseason another person to stabilize things and who you just know is at least solid off the bench is a good thing to have in your back pocket.

Just think (ignoring any possible trade of Monroe/MCW), you're possibly losing Mayo, Bayless, Vasquez, Plumlee. Obviously the bench was a huge issue all year so chances are they'll be looking to overhaul these guys. Though I could certainly get behind Plumlee on a good deal and Bayless as well if he's ok playing mostly off ball

[raferfenix]

If only for his trade value it's a good thing that MCW is so open to coming off the bench.

"I don't know what's going to happen. I could stay coming off the bench, or I could be back in the starting lineup. We don't know. If I do go back to the point guard, it's how can we get the best out of you (Giannis)."

Also, this:

"We have a very strong relationship," Carter-Williams said of his friendship with Antetokounmpo. "We're honest with each other. We're not going to hide anything or shy away.

"We don't get into that. Whatever coach has planned for us, we're going to make the best out of it."

[EastSideBucksFan]

Extremely calculated move to drop JS puff piece this morning on MCW doing anything Kidd or Giannis wants to contribute to this team in any way he can before Kidd drops bomb declaring Giannis starting point guard in November

[Treebeard]

Also, even if the Bucks plan to trade him at the earliest opportunity, don't they really need to wait till he can get back on the floor in a game to prove he's fit to play? You can show medical imaging that shows he's healed and have a Doctor's okey-doke, but till he's performed in game conditions, who's buying - especially for a guy with questions about roster fit?

All joking aside, trying to shift him now, or anytime before he can hit the court; would be trying to flog damaged goods.

[MadBlueEdwards]

He'll probably never be a 3pt threat no matter how many shot doctors they bring in this summer

I don't understand this perspective about MCW's shooting (or any player's deficiencies). Is it impossible for him to improve?

[Ron Swanson]

He'll probably never be a 3pt threat no matter how many shot doctors they bring in this summer

I don't understand this perspective about MCW's shooting (or any player's deficiencies). Is it impossible for him to improve?

No, but at 25 years old (when the season starts) and having had the same ugly shot mechanics with no real improvement the last 4-5 years, it's incredibly unlikely. Some guys just aren't natural shooters.

[Matches Malone]

I'm not sure I even see a spot for MCW on the bench. I'm completely comfortable letting Tyler Ennis back up Giannis next season.

Ennis has shown he can knock down the 3 point shot, has a good change of speed and isn't a complete liability when brought into the game. I would just try and find a new home for MCW in the off-season.

Maybe a team will get desperate come draft night and offer us a Bucks-like offer like we did with Toronto and Greivis. (Unlikely)

[ReasonablySober]

He'll probably never be a 3pt threat no matter how many shot doctors they bring in this summer

I don't understand this perspective about MCW's shooting (or any player's deficiencies). Is it impossible for him to improve?

No, but at 25 years old (when the season starts) and having had the same ugly shot mechanics with no real improvement the last 4-5 years, it's incredibly unlikely. Some guys just aren't natural shooters.

I disagree with regards to his shot. It doesn't look broke at all. Here are his three point makes.

There's nothing wrong with that shot.

[crkone]

He needs to concentrate on shooting and defense for the time being. His defense fell off a cliff this season.

[Badgerlander]

it did?

[M-C-G]

it did?

I can't see this image, think it is a firewall thing, what is it of? Is this in regards to MCW defense?

Because I would have thought his defense was definitely down this year.

[Badgerlander]

it did?

I can't see this image, think it is a firewall thing, what is it of? Is this in regards to MCW defense?

Because I would have thought his defense was definitely down this year.

MCW 90th percentile in PnR defense
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/ball-handler/?OD=defensive&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=1&sort=TeamNameAbbreviation

[Prince12]

MCW got himself ready for big matchups and had some nice nights but mostly he wasn't as engaged as usual and didn't defend to near the level he is capable of.

I don't really see a role for him and happy for him to go but doubt he has any value.

[M-C-G]

it did?

I can't see this image, think it is a firewall thing, what is it of? Is this in regards to MCW defense?

Because I would have thought his defense was definitely down this year.

MCW 90th percentile in PnR defense
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/ball-handler/?OD=defensive&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=1&sort=TeamNameAbbreviation

Interesting...maybe more interesting is looking at the bottom percentile of guys that had over 100 possessions.

Norris Cole
Shabazz
Cameron Payne
Hollis Thompson
Stanley Johnson
Bogdanovic
McLemore
Livingston

[M-C-G]

MCW got himself ready for big matchups and had some nice nights but mostly he wasn't as engaged as usual and didn't defend to near the level he is capable of.

I don't really see a role for him and happy for him to go but doubt he has any value.

I'll agree that he didn't defend to the level he is capable of, because I think he has the ability to be one of the top 3 guard defenders in the league if he wanted to, and arguably the best at that if he bought in to it.

[crkone]

it did?

I can't see this image, think it is a firewall thing, what is it of? Is this in regards to MCW defense?

Because I would have thought his defense was definitely down this year.

MCW 90th percentile in PnR defense
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/ball-handler/?OD=defensive&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=1&sort=TeamNameAbbreviation

These aren't good for a zone based defense that traps and doubles the ball handler. According to these, Giannis is one of the worst defenders in the league.