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I know it was touched upon awhile ago in one of these threads, but after watching the NHL lottery over the weekend, the wait on the NBA's lottery is killing me. Another 2 weeks, so stupid, as it is every year. Our 1.8% and 6.5% only grow stronger with the wait, they'll pay.
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I modified my measurement table using percentile with all players in the DX combine database (2009-2015). The 2016 measurements are the most recent available. I'll update when the 2016 combine results come in. I'll also try to post something that has all the measurements, as I think that is probably more useful.
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2016 Tyler Ulis 0
2013 Shane Larkin 1
2013 Pierre Jackson 1
2015 Ryan Boatright 1
2015 Keifer Sykes 2
2013 Phil Pressey 2
2014 Jahii Carson 3
2014 Shabazz Napier 3
2009 Patrick Mills 3
2014 Russ Smith 4
2011 Isaiah Thomas 4
2011 Norris Cole 4
2013 Peyton Siva 5
2009 Darren Collison 5
2011 Kemba Walker 5
2016 Anthony Barber 5
2016 Melo Trimble 6
2015 Quinn Cook 6
2009 Jack McClinton 6
2015 Joseph Young 7
2013 Isaiah Canaan 7
2012 Tu Holloway 8
2014 Aaron Craft 8
2009 Eric Maynor 8
2015 T.J. McConnell 8
2009 Ty Lawson 8
2013 Seth Curry 8
2012 Jordan Taylor 9
2013 Ray McCallum 9
2015 Tyus Jones 9
2009 Jonny Flynn 10
2015 Chasson Randle 10
2009 Stephen Curry 10
2016 Demetrius Jackson 10
2013 Trey Burke 10
2013 Erick Green 11
2014 Xavier Thames 11
2009 Toney Douglas 11
2012 Marcus Denmon 11
2009 A.J. Price 11
2012 Marquis Teague 11
2013 Myck Kabongo 12
2011 James Fredette 12
2009 Jeff Teague 12
2012 Tyshawn Taylor 13
2011 Brandon Knight 13
2013 Dennis Schroeder 13
2015 Cameron Payne 13
2016 Malik Newman 13
2014 Tyler Ennis 13
2011 Andrew Goudelock 14
2016 Gary Payton II 14
2012 Scott Machado 14
2015 Tyler Harvey 14
2014 Kendall Williams 14
2015 Marcus Thornton 14
2014 Deonte Burton 14
2016 Malik Beasley 14
2011 Nolan Smith 14
2012 J'Covan Brown 14
2011 Cory Joseph 15
2014 Semaj Christon 15
2010 Avery Bradley 15
2016 Bryn Forbes 15
2011 Josh Selby 15
2010 Eric Bledsoe 16
2012 Damian Lillard 16
2010 Sherron Collins 16
2013 CJ McCollum 16
2012 Kendall Marshall 17
2014 Nick Johnson 17
2010 Jon Scheyer 17
2009 Marcus Thornton 17
2013 Nate Wolters 17
2013 B.J. Young 18
2012 Jared Cunningham 18
2015 Terry Rozier 18
2009 Jerel McNeal 18
2014 Elfrid Payton 19
2014 Gary Harris 19
2015 Corey Hawkins 19
2015 Olivier Hanlan 19
2014 Jordan Clarkson 19
2016 A.J. English 20
2011 LaceDarius Dunn 20
2011 Shelvin Mack 21
2012 Darius Johnson-Odom 21
2012 Kim English 21
2011 Demetri McCamey 21
2014 Markel Brown 21
2016 Jamal Murray 21
2009 Rodrigue Beaubois 22
2012 Doron Lamb 22
2010 Armon Johnson 22
2012 Austin Rivers 22
2009 Jodie Meeks 22
2013 Lorenzo Brown 22
2016 Wade Baldwin 23
2016 Michael Gbinije 23
2013 Vander Blue 23
2010 Willie Warren 23
2010 Andy Rautins 24
2014 DeAndre Kane 24
2011 Charles Jenkins 24
2013 Ben McLemore 24
2014 Zach LaVine 24
2011 E'Twaun Moore 24
2010 Jordan Crawford 24
2009 Jrue Holiday 25
2015 Jerian Grant 25
2010 Manny Harris 25
2016 Isaia Cordinier 25
2012 Kevin Murphy 25
2015 Delon Wright 25
2013 Michael Carter-Williams 25
2011 Jon Diebler 25
2011 Darius Morris 26
2009 Wayne Ellington 26
2015 Rashad Vaughn 27
2012 Bradley Beal 27
2014 Jabari Brown 27
2016 Dejounte Murray 27
2014 Sean Kilpatrick 28
2013 Brandon Paul 28
2012 Dion Waiters 28
2013 Tim Hardaway 28
2010 John Wall 29
2009 Greivis Vasquez 29
2012 John Jenkins 29
2015 Pat Connaughton 30
2015 Michael Frazier 30
2013 Archie Goodwin 30
2010 Mikhail Torrance 31
2015 D'Angelo Russell 31
2013 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 31
2012 Jeremy Lamb 31
2010 Terrico White 31
2012 Terrence Ross 31
2013 Ricky Ledo 31
2016 Kris Dunn 32
2014 Joe Harris 32
2014 C.J. Wilcox 32
2012 Will Barton 32
2009 Jermaine Taylor 32
2015 Dez Wells 32
2014 Devyn Marble 33
2012 Tomas Satoransky 33
2011 Malcolm Lee 33
2015 Aaron Harrison 33
2010 Greivis Vasquez 34
2012 Tony Wroten 34
2013 Victor Oladipo 34
2014 Marcus Smart 34
2016 Buddy Hield 35
2015 J.P. Tokoto 35
2009 Chase Budinger 35
2010 Mikhail Torrance 35
2014 Dante Exum 35
2015 Andrew Harrison 35
2015 Devin Booker 35
2010 Dominique Jones 36
2014 Spencer Dinwiddie 36
2010 Sylven Landesberg 36
2014 Nik Stauskas 36
2015 R.J. Hunter 36
2012 Jeff Taylor 37
2014 Jordan Adams 37
2011 Travis Leslie 37
2011 David Lighty 37
2013 Reggie Bullock 37
2013 Jamaal Franklin 38
2014 Jordan McRae 38
2014 K.J. McDaniels 38
2013 Glen Rice 38
2009 Dionte Christmas 38
2011 Alec Burks 38
2013 Carrick Felix 39
2011 Iman Shumpert 39
2011 Marshon Brooks 39
2012 William Buford 39
2010 James Anderson 40
2015 Norman Powell 41
2011 Tyler Honeycutt 41
2012 Tony Mitchell 41
2014 Glenn Robinson 41
2011 Klay Thompson 41
2012 Orlando Johnson 42
2009 Demar Derozan 42
2014 P.J. Hairston 42
2016 Malcolm Brogdon 42
2009 Gerald Henderson 42
2010 Darington Hobson 42
2009 Terrence Williams 43
2011 Jimmy Butler 43
2013 Allen Crabbe 43
2009 Danny Green 43
2015 George Lucas 43
2010 Evan Turner 43
2011 DeAndre Liggins 43
2010 Gordon Hayward 43
2012 Hollis Thompson 44
2016 Denzel Valentine 44
2014 Cleanthony Early 45
2014 Lamar Patterson 45
2014 Rodney Hood 45
2015 Michael Qualls 45
2011 Scotty Hopson 45
2012 Jae Crowder 45
2009 Tyler Smith 47
2016 Wayne Selden 47
2012 Robbie Hummel 47
2009 James Harden 47
2015 Treveon Graham 47
2015 Terran Petteway 47
2012 Darius Miller 47
2014 Doug McDermott 47
2013 Solomon Hill 48
2013 James Ennis 48
2009 Demarre Carroll 48
2010 Lance Stephenson 48
2014 Thanasis Antetokounmpo 48
2013 Deshaun Thomas 49
2016 Brice Johnson 49
2009 Tyreke Evans 49
2013 Andre Roberson 49
2015 Justise Winslow 49
2015 Anthony Brown 49
2013 Tony Snell 50
2013 Adonis Thomas 50
2010 Xavier Henry 50
2014 C.J. Fair 50
2014 Melvin Ejim 51
2012 Moe Harkless 51
2011 Jereme Richmond 51
2014 James Young 51
2015 Vince Hunter 51
2015 Kelly Oubre 51
2012 Kris Joseph 51
2012 Khris Middleton 51
2010 Lazar Hayward 51
2013 Shabazz Muhammad 51
2016 Perry Ellis 52
2015 Justin Anderson 52
2009 Joe Ingles 54
2013 Will Clyburn 54
2011 Jordan Hamilton 54
2014 T.J. Warren 54
2009 Omri Casspi 55
2011 Tobias Harris 55
2009 Sam Young 55
2012 Harrison Barnes 55
2015 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 55
2015 Stanley Johnson 56
2010 Wesley Johnson 56
2016 Dorian Finney-Smith 57
2013 Otto Porter 57
2016 Jarrod Uthoff 57
2015 Branden Dawson 57
2010 Luke Babbitt 58
2014 DeAndre Daniels 58
2016 Jaylen Brown 58
2011 Chandler Parsons 58
2010 Luke Harangody 59
2013 Robert Covington 59
2010 Trevor Booker 59
2011 Marcus Morris 59
2016 Marquese Chriss 60
2012 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 60
2016 Taurean Prince 60
2009 Luke Harangody 60
2010 Devin Ebanks 60
2010 Stanley Robinson 61
2014 Aaron Gordon 61
2013 C.J. Leslie 61
2011 Kyle Singler 61
2009 Dante Cunningham 62
2010 Paul George 62
2012 Mike Scott 62
2015 Sam Dekker 62
2009 Damion James 62
2014 Cory Jefferson 62
2014 Khem Birch 62
2013 James Southerland 63
2015 Aaron White 63
2013 Richard Howell 63
2012 Draymond Green 64
2011 Kenneth Faried 64
2011 Chris Singleton 64
2012 Drew Gordon 64
2010 Damion James 65
2016 Domantas Sabonis 65
2015 Jarell Martin 65
2014 Jerami Grant 66
2009 Gani Lawal 66
2011 Justin Harper 66
2012 Quincy Miller 67
2011 Kawhi Leonard 67
2011 Markieff Morris 68
2016 Brandon Ingram 68
2012 Royce White 68
2011 Malcolm Thomas 68
2009 Tyler Hansbrough 68
2012 Quincy Acy 68
2009 Jeff Adrien 69
2014 Jarnell Stokes 69
2011 Jon Leuer 69
2012 JaMychal Green 69
2012 Kevin Jones 69
2016 Deyonta Davis 69
2014 LaQuinton Ross 69
2015 Brandon Ashley 69
2015 Chris McCullough 69
2010 Gani Lawal 70
2013 Cody Zeller 70
2011 Jamie Skeen 70
2009 Blake Griffin 70
2009 James Johnson 71
2014 Julius Randle 71
2014 James McAdoo 71
2015 Chris Walker 71
2009 Austin Daye 71
2009 DaJuan Summers 71
2015 Larry Nance 71
2014 Dwight Powell 71
2009 Dejuan Blair 72
2010 Al-Farouq Aminu 72
2011 Tristan Thompson 72
2010 Ed Davis 72
2013 Erik Murphy 72
2013 Kelly Olynyk 72
2009 Derrick Brown 73
2014 Patric Young 73
2011 Jordan Williams 73
2015 Jordan Mickey 73
2013 Norvel Pelle 73
2015 Jonathan Holmes 73
2013 Tony Mitchell 73
2013 Trevor Mbakwe 74
2011 JaJuan Johnson 74
2010 Craig Brackins 74
2013 Jackie Carmichael 74
2014 Johnny Obryant 74
2010 Jarvis Varnado 74
2014 Kyle Anderson 75
2010 Patrick Patterson 75
2012 Jared Sullinger 75
2012 Tyler Zeller 75
2016 Jameel Warney 75
2010 Charles Garcia 75
2015 TaShawn Thomas 76
2011 Trey Thompkins 76
2015 Alan Williams 76
2009 Jeff Pendergraph 76
2011 Rick Jackson 76
2009 Taj Gibson 76
2013 Mason Plumlee 77
2011 Derrick Williams 77
2013 Ryan Kelly 77
2016 Henry Ellenson 77
2012 Thomas Robinson 77
2016 Cheick Diallo 77
2013 Nerlens Noel 77
2012 Arnett Moultrie 78
2013 Mike Muscala 78
2016 Robert Carter 78
2009 Jordan Hill 78
2015 Frank Kaminsky 78
2014 Cameron Bairstow 78
2012 Miles Plumlee 78
2015 Richaun Holmes 78
2016 Ben Simmons 78
2016 Skal Labissiere 79
2010 Derrick Caracter 79
2015 Kevon Looney 79
2011 Gregory Smith 79
2012 Perry Jones 79
2009 Earl Clark 80
2013 Grant Jerrett 80
2012 Andrew Nicholson 80
2013 Kenny Kadji 80
2015 Trey Lyles 80
2013 Brandon Davies 80
2011 Michael Dunigan 80
2015 Christian Wood 80
2010 Ekpe Udoh 80
2012 Terrence Jones 80
2015 Cliff Alexander 80
2016 Dragan Bender 80
2012 Bernard James 80
2012 Anthony Davis 81
2012 Kyle O'Quinn 81
2011 Keith Benson 81
2013 Jeff Withey 81
2016 Jakob Poeltl 82
2012 John Henson 82
2009 Josh Heytvelt 82
2010 Ryan Richards 82
2014 Alec Brown 83
2015 Montrezl Harrell 83
2014 Noah Vonleh 84
2015 Bobby Portis 84
2016 Zhou Qi 85
2010 Larry Sanders 85
2014 Adreian Payne 85
2016 Stephen Zimmerman Jr. 85
2010 Greg Monroe 86
2012 Henry Sims 86
2013 Gorgui Dieng 86
2016 Damian Jones 86
2011 Enes Kanter 86
2016 Chinanu Onuaku 86
2010 Artsiom Parakhouski 87
2014 Isaiah Austin 87
2013 Dewayne Dedmon 87
2010 Cole Aldrich 88
2016 Thon Maker 88
2010 Derrick Favors 88
2015 Rakeem Christmas 88
2012 Meyers Leonard 88
2014 Alex Kirk 89
2010 Hassan Whiteside 89
2015 Myles Turner 89
2015 Mouhammadou Jaiteh 89
2013 Alex Len 90
2013 Colton Iverson 90
2016 Diamond Stone 90
2009 B.J. Mullens 90
2010 Keith Gallon 90
2015 Willie Cauley-Stein 90
2012 Festus Ezeli 91
2012 Fab Melo 91
2010 Daniel Orton 91
2015 Dakari Johnson 92
2014 Jordan Bachynski 92
2010 Solomon Alabi 92
2011 Jeremy Tyler 92
2013 Steven Adams 93
2016 A.J. Hammons 93
2012 Andre Drummond 94
2013 Rudy Gobert 94
2010 Jerome Jordan 95
2011 Nikola Vucevic 95
2010 Dexter Pittman 95
2016 Prince Ibeh 95
2010 DeMarcus Cousins 95
2015 Robert Upshaw 96
2009 Hasheem Thabeet 98
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I would love to come away with one of LaVert, Brogdon or Cordinier in the second round. I think all three will be serviceable role players in the next couple of years. If LaVert can actually stay healthy he has a chance at becoming a quality 6th man or even our 4th scoring option starting next to Giannis.
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Rockmaninoff wrote:I think what Ulis lacks is bulk. Small guys like C Paul, I Thomas, and K Walker all had that, plus elite athleticism. It will be interesting to see how Ulis tests at athletically.
I think Ulis will struggle because of his lack of bulk where as a player like Felder has a better shot at sticking in the league.
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http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/05/prospect-profile-demetrius-jackson.html
I really think that Demetrius is a Lillard level player. He doesn't shoot as many threes, especially off the bounce but if he's starting next to Point Giannis then he'll be shooting more catch and shoot 3s which he hits at 41% anyway. I think the lack of turnovers is huge though. Jackson only had 2.2 in 36 minutes as the leader of the offense this year, similar to Kemba Walker who is one of the league leaders in avoiding TOs with a heavy offensive load and a stud when the game is on the line and you need a score. Jackson was crazy efficient as the number two ball handler last year for Notre Dame averaging only 1.5 turnovers with a 62%ts/59%efg which is the role that I'd envision for him on the Bucks. Play off the ball on offense and run the high PnR when Giannis struggles with his initial set. Demetrius has amazing handles for those situations when you just cant have a turnover on offense and need a score, he doesn't have CP3 court vision but he's more than good enough as a number two ball handler and probably at times the number 3 or 4 on the Bucks. Jackson is the same size as Chris Paul but he's stronger and while Notre Dame didn't stress defense I think Jackson was very opportunistic on the ball as we saw against the Badgers.
OVERVIEW: Demetrius Jackson took over as Notre Dame’s floor leader as a junior and emerged as a first-round prospect. Jackson led the Irish to the Elite Eight despite some struggles offensively during the latter stages of the season. He finished his college career with a 26-point performance against North Carolina and averaged 15.8 points, 4.7 assists, 3.5 rebounds and 1.2 steals for the season. Jackson played steady minutes as a sophomore, though current Knicks point guard Jerian Grant was the team’s primary ballhandler. Jackson was also a rotation player as a freshman after being a highly touted prep star, ranking No. 33 overall in his class, according to the Recruiting Services Consensus Index. At 6’1”, the 21-year-old Jackson is smaller than the prototypical NBA point guard.
STRENGTHS: Like most smaller point guards, Jackson relies on his quickness and athleticism. He’s got superior explosion, allowing him to get into the paint and create havoc. That will serve him well in a pick-and-roll reliant NBA scheme. It also works well in the transition game, where he’s nearly impossible to catch as he converts layups or finds trailers for dunks. ESPN Insider Chad Ford credits Jackson for his pass-first mentality, decision-making and a knack for making his teammates better. DraftExpress’ Jonathan Givony notes that while Jackson is small, he’s powerfully built and can finish through contact. His outstanding leaping ability allows him to be on the receiving end of lobs. He also moves well without the ball and is a solid shooter off the catch, with Givony pointing out that he made 41% of his shots with his feet set. Turnovers were not a big issue for Jackson, as he averaged 2.2 as a junior while playing 36 minutes per game. Jackson has also impressed talent evaluators with his competitiveness, according to NBA.com’s David Aldridge.
I really think that Demetrius is a Lillard level player. He doesn't shoot as many threes, especially off the bounce but if he's starting next to Point Giannis then he'll be shooting more catch and shoot 3s which he hits at 41% anyway. I think the lack of turnovers is huge though. Jackson only had 2.2 in 36 minutes as the leader of the offense this year, similar to Kemba Walker who is one of the league leaders in avoiding TOs with a heavy offensive load and a stud when the game is on the line and you need a score. Jackson was crazy efficient as the number two ball handler last year for Notre Dame averaging only 1.5 turnovers with a 62%ts/59%efg which is the role that I'd envision for him on the Bucks. Play off the ball on offense and run the high PnR when Giannis struggles with his initial set. Demetrius has amazing handles for those situations when you just cant have a turnover on offense and need a score, he doesn't have CP3 court vision but he's more than good enough as a number two ball handler and probably at times the number 3 or 4 on the Bucks. Jackson is the same size as Chris Paul but he's stronger and while Notre Dame didn't stress defense I think Jackson was very opportunistic on the ball as we saw against the Badgers.
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As we get started, Kemba Walker one of best in the league at avoiding TOs with big offensive role:
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http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Wade-Baldwin-NBA-Draft-Scouting-Report-and-Video-Breakdown-5466
Jackson has pretty similar catch and shoot %
Offensively, the first thing that jumps out on Baldwin, both on his stat sheet and when watching film,
is his perimeter shooting, as he's made 40.6% of his 199 three-point attempts during his two seasons in college. He's most prolific as a shooter off the catch, where he shot 42% on the season and over 43% when left unguarded, both numbers which, when accounting for the fact that the vast majority of those attempts were from three-point range, were well above average, yielding 1.246 and 1.267 points per shot, respectively, according to Synergy Sports Technology.
Baldwin was much less comfortable as a shooter off the dribble, despite yielding 0.829 points per shot on such attempts, a better-than-average figure. When watching him in game situations, the results off the dribble were pretty inconsistent, with pronounced hot and cold spells which made it a tough facet of his game to rely on. Baldwin doesn't get a lot of elevation on his jump shots and has a low release point that's almost out in front of his body, which makes his shot a little bit easier to contest, and thus requires more time and space to get it off, factors which could impact his effectiveness pulling up off the dribble, and creating shots overall for himself and others, at the next level.
The other main problem with Baldwin in a half court setting is his struggles both getting to, and finishing, in the paint, struggles which exist for a multitude of reasons. Baldwin is fast when he has built up a head of steam, something which becomes evident in transition, but he lacks the elite burst to turn the corner on a defender in the half court, and struggles to get into the paint because of it. He doesn't offset this with an overly advanced dribble, either, and doesn't change speeds, or direction, quite as well as you would want in a primary ball handler. Finally, when Baldwin gets into the paint he has only average explosiveness around the hoop, and his lack of a consistent in-between game --- both in the form of pull-up jump shot or a floater in the lane – makes game planning against him relatively easy for a defense.
Baldwin does have a strong, developed upper body, and he uses that to initiate contact and get to the free throw line at a rate of 7.7 times per 40 minutes, pace adjusted, an incredible rate for somebody of his relatively low usage. This helps offset some of his struggles at the rim, but shooting just 38% on half court shots around the basket, as Synergy has logged for Baldwin, is something he's going to have to improve upon significantly at the next level.
Baldwin's struggles to really turn the corner and get into the paint with regularity also limit him somewhat as a shot creator for others. He is a willing, and able, passer, who has some creativity, both out of pick and roll situations and on drive and kicks, but he can force the issue at times driving to the hoop, leading to both offensive foul calls and getting himself in dangerous situations without having a plan on how to pass out of them. He can also get sloppy with a handle that all too frequently is high and off balance, which both limits his ability to turn the corner, but also makes him prone to being stripped of the ball more often he ideally would, and overall his 3.6 turnovers per 40 minutes, pace adjusted, is the second worst mark among point guards in our top-100 rankings, are a clear area in need of improvement.
Jackson has pretty similar catch and shoot %
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Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress Apr 30
North Carolina's Justin Jackson has been invited to participate in the NBA Combine (five on five). Sophomore is testing the waters, for now.
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Badgerlander wrote:Have no idea what your table is trying to convey
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Cumulative relative size of players from 2009-2016.
M-G-C asked for it in percentiles, so I did that for him.
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Rockmaninoff wrote:Badgerlander wrote:Have no idea what your table is trying to convey
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Relative size of players from 2009-2016.
Relative to what
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Badgerlander wrote:Rockmaninoff wrote:Badgerlander wrote:Have no idea what your table is trying to convey
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Relative size of players from 2009-2016.
Relative to what
To each other.
MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:The fight for civil rights just like for liberty and justice and peace won't be won by man. It will take a god...so lets move on to sports.
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Rockmaninoff wrote:Badgerlander wrote:Rockmaninoff wrote:
Relative size of players from 2009-2016.
Relative to what
To each other.
so its a list of shortest to tallest?
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Badgerlander wrote:Rockmaninoff wrote:Badgerlander wrote:
Relative to what
To each other.
so its a list of shortest to tallest?
No, it's an average of no shoe height, weight, wingspan, and reach.
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Rockmaninoff wrote:Badgerlander wrote:Rockmaninoff wrote:
To each other.
so its a list of shortest to tallest?
No, it's an average of no shoe height, weight, wingspan, and reach.
Oh
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http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Deyonta-Davis-NBA-Draft-Scouting-Report-and-Video-Breakdown-5467
They claim he has a big standing reach. Hmm i wonder how big it is
They claim he has a big standing reach. Hmm i wonder how big it is
The intrigue around Davis starts with his tremendous physical profile, which is simply ideal for a modern day NBA big man. He stands 6'10 with a 7'2 wingspan and a big standing reach, to go along with an excellent 240 pound frame that will continue to fill out nicely in time. Davis is also a terrific athlete, smooth, agile and highly fluid, running the floor exceptionally well, with great quickness and the ability to elevate effortlessly around the rim in the blink of an eye.
Offensively, Davis was far from a prolific scorer for Michigan State, lacking the strength to assert himself consistently inside the post, but also an advanced skill-level outside of it. He does not possess a sophisticated post game, as his footwork and countermoves are rudimentary, particularly utilizing his left hand, and he often looks rushed trying to create his own offense.
With that said, Davis found ways to be effective in a very compact role throughout the season, showing just enough glimpses to lead you to believe that he won't be just a non-scoring, defensive oriented, hustle guy down the track. His excellent hands, soft touch and tremendous physical tools make him an extremely reliable finisher. He catches everything thrown his way, and is so quick off his feet that he's very difficult for opposing big men to contest, making him an outstanding target off cuts and pick and rolls, and also a reliable option for lobs. His reach and effortless bounce allows him to finish plays almost without jumping, and he has just enough of a right-handed jump-hook that he can throw the ball in the basket inside the paint from interesting vantage points.
Davis' touch, and solid shooting mechanics, lead you to believe that he may be able to develop the range on his jumper as his career progresses as well. That will be important, as otherwise he may be relegated to a role as strictly an undersized rim-running center in today's NBA.
The best attributes Davis offers at this point likely revolve around his defense. He's quick and agile enough to stay in front of pretty much any power forward, and should be able to add enough bulk to his excellent frame to hold his own as a small-ball center in time. He has great potential as a pick and roll defender, already showing terrific flashes stepping out and switching onto guards and wings, covering ground and moving his feet with excellent lateral quickness, and being difficult to shoot over with the way he contests looks on the perimeter. He blocks an impressive 4.1 shots per-40 minutes this season as well, many on the ball, while showing the ability to develop into an excellent rim-protector in time.
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Love me some Deyonta
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freewhitemoon wrote: Hmm i wonder how big it is
I bet his combine numbers (vert, etc) will be outstanding too
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anyone here can contact john hammond? this dude looks legit I dont want him fking this up and picking Sabonis or something
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Anybody who's as quick to the rim as he is has to have either a big standing reach or a crazy vert.
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Badgerlander wrote:freewhitemoon wrote: Hmm i wonder how big it is
I bet his combine numbers (vert, etc) will be outstanding too
combine numbers wont do him justice since they dont take into account how quickly he can get up. Even plodders like Klove record a 35 inch max vert