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Thon's Age II

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Thon's Age Is...

18 or younger
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19
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28%
20
6
3%
21
26
14%
22
6
3%
23
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39%
24 or older
14
7%
 
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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1181 » by engelmartin » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:54 pm

If every team was confident about him being 19, does he go top 5?
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Post#1182 » by Exit » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:56 pm

engelmartin wrote:If every team was confident about him being 19, does he go top 5?


Nope he was projected outside the top 10 or later even before the age stuff popped up.
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Post#1183 » by Buckrageous » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:08 pm

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Post#1184 » by har13 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:10 pm

Exit wrote:
engelmartin wrote:If every team was confident about him being 19, does he go top 5?


Nope he was projected outside the top 10 or later even before the age stuff popped up.


i found that his brother Maker graduated in 2015,and i found that one of his brothers and one of his sisters was born after Thon and before Maker,i also found that his familly his parents are all good educated people and not poor sudanese.His sister graduated in 2011 saying she is 22,his other sister admits tha Thon was in Aranmore for 4 years in 2010,proven that both Thon,Matur birth days is different in HS and Passports(even Matur sister wish him happy birthday in 2 of may).
Lets say you believe what i'm saying is true,would you still believe that he is 19 because of his passport or 23?
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Post#1185 » by Diggr14 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:11 pm

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I mean it would be nice to post here unfortunately if you don't go along with the hivemind here you are accused of being part of a conspiracy.


Yeah i disagree with this, i often take contrarian opinions here.. don't really see what you are saying.
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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1186 » by Frank Nova » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:12 pm

engelmartin wrote:Anyone else care that Ibaka is probably 5 years older than he claims? Why's everyone ignore that? It's pretty relevant.

Or Biyombo, or Mutombo. There's suspicion over basically every African players age but at some point people seem to forget. Are we going to let the Thon thing go at some point?


I think most have stopped caring as the debate has gotten fairly useless. People can continue to dig up old stories and what not that support their agenda but it still doesn't and won't ever clarify Thons actual age. Was he born in 1997? Possibly not but who knows. Does he say he was born in 1997 and have legal documentation stating he's born in 1997? He does. That's good enough for me to not really care anymore and be at the point I just want him to be a good player for the team. In 5yrs if he stinks then we can all say he's 30yrs old and past any chance of relevancy. In 5yrs if he's a beast and becoming a force in the league, he can be 24 or 29 and no one will give a rats ass.
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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1187 » by freewhitemoon » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:13 pm

Diggr14 wrote:
Exit wrote:
I mean it would be nice to post here unfortunately if you don't go along with the hivemind here you are accused of being part of a conspiracy.


Yeah i disagree with this, i often take contrarian opinions here.. don't really see what you are saying.


If you want to escape the hivemind you need to turn to reddit obviously
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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1188 » by har13 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:18 pm

weezybaby856 wrote:
engelmartin wrote:Anyone else care that Ibaka is probably 5 years older than he claims? Why's everyone ignore that? It's pretty relevant.

Or Biyombo, or Mutombo. There's suspicion over basically every African players age but at some point people seem to forget. Are we going to let the Thon thing go at some point?


I think most have stopped caring as the debate has gotten fairly useless. People can continue to dig up old stories and what not that support their agenda but it still doesn't and won't ever clarify Thons actual age. Was he born in 1997? Possibly not but who knows. Does he say he was born in 1997 and have legal documentation stating he's born in 1997? He does. That's good enough for me to not really care anymore and be at the point I just want him to be a good player for the team. In 5yrs if he stinks then we can all say he's 30yrs old and past any chance of relevancy. In 5yrs if he's a beast and becoming a force in the league, he can be 24 or 29 and no one will give a rats ass.

sorry but their is no proofs for what you are saying.did you found any proof that this players are older?you don't believe their passports?
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Post#1189 » by engelmartin » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:28 pm

har13 wrote:sorry but their is no proofs for what you are saying.did you found any proof that this players are older?you don't believe their passports?

There's as much proof as with Thon. It's all just speculation. While the evidence against Thon might be more damning, I think part of it is because of the incendiary nature of social media witch hunts. Even as recently as Biyombo (2011) word didn't spread so quickly.

Here's an article from draftexpress about Biyombo, I excerpted the part about his age:

"The one thing that continues to dog Biyombo are the question marks NBA teams have about his age. Recently converted NBA draft analyst David Aldridge wrote that an NBA GM he spoke with said he had heard rumors that Biyombo was “anywhere from 23 to 26.”

Our research has revealed some slightly different information. Coaches who have worked with Biyombo earlier in his career while he was still in Congo think he's “no older than 20 at most,” while Biyombo's agent, Igor Crespo, has evidence that proves Biyombo is even younger.

Crespo says he took Biyombo to a specialist to conduct a bone age study immediately upon his arrival in Spain (Biyombo was reportedly 16). The study, as explained here involves taking x-rays of an adolescent's wrist and hand to see if his growth plates are still open. Because the cartilage in Biyombo's hand hadn't fused at that point, the specialist came to the conclusion that he could be 16 or 17 at most, but not 18, when growth plates are expected to be closed.

This obviously rules out the possibility of Biyombo being five to eight years older than he's listed, as the wild speculation we've seen recently on the Internet indicates. Crespo says he will willingly share these x-rays with any NBA team that requests them. One team we spoke with has already begun to evaluate the x-rays."
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Finding-a-Niche-For-Bismack-Biyombo-3683/#ixzz1KddCTXlQ

^Doesn't that sound pretty familiar?

The Ibaka thing is mostly based on an eye test and a theory from reddit (it's always reddit):
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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1190 » by har13 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:35 pm

people my english really sucks,if you want me to stop posting i will do it,i destroy your language and i feel bad.
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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1191 » by har13 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:38 pm

engelmartin wrote:
har13 wrote:sorry but their is no proofs for what you are saying.did you found any proof that this players are older?you don't believe their passports?

There's as much proof as with Thon. It's all just speculation. While the evidence against Thon might be more damning, I think part of it is because of the incendiary nature of social media witch hunts. Even as recently as Biyombo (2011) word didn't spread so quickly.

sorry but i didn't see anything here."speculation"?..my friend ok..what ever..you are right
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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1192 » by goblueaus » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:05 am

har13 wrote:people my english really sucks,if you want me to stop posting i will do it,i destroy your language and i feel bad.


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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1193 » by drew881 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:19 pm

har13 wrote:people my english really sucks,if you want me to stop posting i will do it,i destroy your language and i feel bad.


We take no offense to your English sucking, but we question the content of what you are saying.
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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1194 » by har13 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:26 pm

drew881 wrote:
har13 wrote:people my english really sucks,if you want me to stop posting i will do it,i destroy your language and i feel bad.


We take no offense to your English sucking, but we question the content of what you are saying.

if they are true you mean?
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Post#1195 » by LedZepp007 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:15 pm

People need to stop saying "proving." No one has "proved" anything. There is a lot of smoke, though, and maybe an orange glow.


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Re: Thon's Age II 

Post#1196 » by har13 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:27 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:People need to stop saying "proving." No one has "proved" anything. There is a lot of smoke, though, and maybe an orange glow.


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Post#1197 » by MilHammer » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:25 pm

har13 wrote:
drew881 wrote:
har13 wrote:people my english really sucks,if you want me to stop posting i will do it,i destroy your language and i feel bad.


We take no offense to your English sucking, but we question the content of what you are saying.

if they are true you mean?
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Your English isnt bad at all man. If anything, just use proper punctuation and organize your thoughts
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Post#1198 » by worthlessBucks » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:34 pm

Much respect to anybody who speaks multiple languages.
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Post#1199 » by breakchains » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:39 pm

engelmartin wrote:If every team was confident about him being 19, does he go top 5?

He certainly should have. Whether or not teams would've or not, who knows. I would have him at top 3 if he was 19.
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Post#1200 » by emunney » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:42 pm

worthlessBucks wrote:Much respect to anybody who speaks multiple languages.


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